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What bothers you about being escaped on?
My opponent didn't acknowledge that I beat him 9%  9%  [ 13 ]
I don't get rating credit for having won 18%  18%  [ 26 ]
My opponent got away with no rating penalty for having lost 9%  9%  [ 13 ]
It won't look like a win in my games record 6%  6%  [ 9 ]
Other people will see it in my games record and think I escaped 13%  13%  [ 19 ]
It's just rude and I'd be equally upset if someone escaped a Free game 32%  32%  [ 46 ]
Other 11%  11%  [ 16 ]
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Post #21 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:03 am 
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I voted other as well, because I don't feel bothered very much. I am just surprised how many people haven't learnt about good manners. Go is a game that is supposed to teach patience (among other things). Being escaped on is an opportunity to practise these teachings.

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Post #22 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:34 am 
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karaklis wrote:
Being escaped on is an opportunity to practise these teachings.

You are right, it's a good attitude to treat this as an opportunity for personal improvement. On the other hand, I gotta practice enough patience every day - in my free time, I wanna enjoy. And so I fully agree with Ross' post. You encounter enough impoliteness on the server. Being escaped on is amoung the most severe. So ... well, you can guess my conclusion.

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Post #23 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:35 am 
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what bothers me most is that I have to sit and wait for 5 min or so to see if my opponent escaped or just lost connection and is trying to get back.

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Post #24 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:31 pm 
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I voted other. I follow the maxim: "You can't control others, you can control yourself". I won't pretend I never feel irritation at other people's behaviour, but that's my problem, and I'm working on it. It's a work in progress... ;-)

Same here, except my preferred way of dealing with this problem is not playing online much.

Sure you can control your behavior and don't get mad when someone escapes on you, but that doesn't change the fact that you just donated an hour of your time to a jerk.

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Post #25 Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:02 pm 
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I use KGS to assess my progress in numerical terms. My serious game, training games with stronger players, and best reviews are all done live.

Therefore I care most about the rating points - mine and his/hers.

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Post #26 Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:28 am 
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palapiku wrote:
Andrea wrote:
I voted other. I follow the maxim: "You can't control others, you can control yourself". I won't pretend I never feel irritation at other people's behaviour, but that's my problem, and I'm working on it. It's a work in progress... ;-)

Same here, except my preferred way of dealing with this problem is not playing online much.

Sure you can control your behavior and don't get mad when someone escapes on you, but that doesn't change the fact that you just donated an hour of your time to a jerk.

Then why not play on a different server? Are you really telling me that you avoid playing Go solely because of escapers? If that were so, why wouldn't you use a different server? Are you sure that's just not an excuse to avoid playing online?

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Post #27 Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 7:18 am 
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Then why not play on a different server? Are you really telling me that you avoid playing Go solely because of escapers? If that were so, why wouldn't you use a different server?

Why wouldn't you encounter escapers on any other server?

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Post #28 Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:45 am 
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Dusk Eagle wrote:
Then why not play on a different server? Are you really telling me that you avoid playing Go solely because of escapers? If that were so, why wouldn't you use a different server?

Why wouldn't you encounter escapers on any other server?


You do, but escaping is considered as a loss, with consequent impact on rating.

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Post #29 Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:40 am 
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You do, but escaping is considered as a loss, with consequent impact on rating.

it is on kgs also -- kgs just allows more time to finish the game before counting it as a loss.

and if its a non-rated game, then its immediately a loss.

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Post #30 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:33 am 
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Because they don't even say ' Thank you' and just disappear.

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Post #31 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:39 am 
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It really doesn't bother me. I suppose I've stopped caring about my ratings, rank, or my win/loss record any more. The one thing I'd miss is I like the politeness of welcoming the opponent, and thanking them at the end, so I'd miss that. But no more from an escapee than a resignation. I'd rather he said thanks for the game and escaped than resigned and left without saying anything.

I would like the ability to simply remove the game from the gamelist though - leaving it hanging grates on my OCD for tying up loose ends :)

same here.

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Post #32 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:57 am 
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Because they don't even say ' Thank you' and just disappear.


Unfortunately, the above describes half of my opponents on KGS who finish the game - they don't even say "thx" and just disapear.

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Post #33 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:03 pm 
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Is there really a difference between saying "thx" and nothing at all?

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Harleqin wrote:
Is there really a difference between saying "thx" and nothing at all?


there are people who care, so i do it.
if you think it doesnt mean anything you can try like: "it was a nice game, thank you for playing"

same meaning behind but even better ;)

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Post #35 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:54 pm 
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nami wrote:
Harleqin wrote:
Is there really a difference between saying "thx" and nothing at all?


There are people who care, so I do it.
If you think it doesn't mean anything, you can try something like: "it was a nice game, thank you for playing."

There is the same meaning behind it, but even better. ;)


You may perhaps see how I meant the question when I tell you that I usually write "thank you".

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Post #36 Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:50 pm 
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Harleqin wrote:
Is there really a difference between saying "thx" and nothing at all?


A bit
but worse is when i say 'thank you' they reply 'no problem' :evil: when it's just a normal game, not a teaching or anything i ask my opponent to do me a favor.

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Post #37 Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:02 pm 
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Helel wrote:
kokomi wrote:
Harleqin wrote:
Is there really a difference between saying "thx" and nothing at all?


A bit
but worse is when i say 'thank you' they reply 'no problem' :evil: when it's just a normal game, not a teaching or anything i ask my opponent to do me a favor.


Are you really sure they talk about the game as a whole...
Maybe you reconnected or went away for a couple of minutes or was allowed to take back a move...

Or maybe they thought your game was so below standards that they simply thought you thanked them for putting up with you... :twisted:


never did that, never ask undo even misclick unless in teaching :lol: I said it's just a normal game.

Plus, i don't think to say 'thank you' is such a difficult thing. :twisted:

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