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Post #1 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:59 pm 
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Recently I have been having problems with KGS and the users. Being called "weak" after I ask them too stop and yet they keep going. When they insult me the admins tell me too censor them but when I say something back I get banned I think it's a little unfair and the admins should be doing more as asking for the full story instead of just banning whoever they dislike more.

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Post #2 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:55 pm 
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Great introductory post. Just what is needed to fit in well.

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Post #3 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:03 pm 
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I had a look at your game (Fri 9.8) out of curiosity. To me it looks like you're just as much at fault as the others (they weren't especially nice either, but some would also call their comments humorous remarks). You also kept fueling the argument and in the end you took the name calling to the next level. I don't see a problem with the admin decision. Censoring really is a sound option, as was suggested.


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Post #4 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:07 pm 
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I never said I didn't have anything too do with it, but yet at the same time I was the only one who took the heat. I have witnesses in the room that saw what happened I'm not gonna list KGS names because I don't think that that's a smart idea, all in all nobody likes being called weak and the fact that they called me names and didn't want too play me after they said it just makes them look worse. But the admin (once again, not naming who it was) responeded too the one who reported first. I was thinking of reporting the room and the game myself so we all even take the heat but since I was too late I got the heat.

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Post #5 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:37 pm 
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Heh, so now you’re here, too Image

Do you still don’t like if people kibitz when you play a bot? :twisted:

Greetings from Tom in Germany

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Post #6 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:38 pm 
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Not sure we met "tom"

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Post #7 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:41 pm 
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Heh, so now you’re here, too Image

Do you still don’t like if people kibitz when you play a bot? :twisted:

Greetings from Tom in Germany


After reading the transcript of the 9/8 game I'm curious about this Tom :)

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Post #8 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:43 pm 
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Lol we should seriously do something about this. I know I made mistakes too if you want too tell me about it and how you feel about this fight go ahead, I'm open and I will respond with how I saw it :)

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Post #9 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:23 pm 
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All I can say is that you must have good potential to have reached AGA 5k as such a young age.

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Post #10 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:27 pm 
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Dude I'm 13, I'm a little late too becoming an AGA 5k XD

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Post #11 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:44 pm 
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Of course it's not too late.
But the truth is, you're not an AGA *anything* yet. You may say you think you deserve to be such-and-such a rank, or that so-and-so said you have some potential, but until you back it up, all people see is the talk. Maybe that's why you ran into the reaction you got in the game in question. When you start winning (and note I didn't say 'if'), then you won't need to get into boasting contests.

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Post #12 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:47 pm 
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:-? May I ask who you are? You seem too talk as if you know who I am. I'm not mad I'm just curious XD

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Post #13 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:51 pm 
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I'm on the AGA membership staff. And sometimes I'm on KGS, where *everyone* has heard your professional and teaching ambitions. Good luck with those.

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Post #14 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:52 pm 
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umm okay o.o I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

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Post #15 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:02 pm 
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Okay, let me get this straight.

I just looked at your last game on KGS. You ranking is all over the place. It jumped from 19k to 5k when you beat an 8k. You have turned it on and off since that time and it is currently off, so no one really has any idea what your rank is. A 3d is good enough to play you an even game. At the end of that game one of the kibitzers says you are weak, a fact which is clearly true if you are challenging 3 dans to even games. You go off on a tirade of insults and take umbrage.

Sounds just like a 13-year old spoiled brat who has no future if you ask me. You you want respect you need to earn it.

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Post #16 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:13 pm 
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Yeah my ranking is all over the place, because I didn't play a ranked game for like a very long time and then I played an 8k and jumped because I beat the 8k by such a large margin. and then i turn off my rank again because I honestly don't think it matters that much. But I made sure everyone knows that i hate being weak and I already admitted that I was weaker then 3d. LOL I play high dans in even games all the time so i can learn their moves you make it seem like I do it just because I want too when in the end I just want too become strong. And look how long it took you too reach 5d I'm aiming too become one when I am 16 and I am 13 now i need all the traning i can get

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Post #17 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:41 pm 
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Yes, just like I said. A spoiled brat. They are a dime a dozen these days. Why don't you try to be something which will make you stand out from the rest? Believe me, it will be better for you in the long run. Why, you might even reach 7d if you change you attitude.

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Post #18 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:48 pm 
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"which will make me stand out from the rest" What do you mean by that?

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Post #19 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:01 pm 
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"which will make me stand out from the rest" What do you mean by that?


I knew a physician once who was ethnic Chinese but trained in the west. When he went back to China to learn acupuncture he started to ask questions. He was told "if you have to ask, you will never learn".

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Post #20 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:06 pm 
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Hm, well then. I think i see what you mean but I am not sure it's correct. I think you ment "Do your own thing, don't react to bullies like normal peopele do, stand out and find your own path"

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