Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

Joaz Banbeck · **#481**

To Violence, Daniel, Gresil, Shapenaji, and observers:[EDIT UNhide]There seems to be a forced sequence ahead of us:

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Gresil has obviously seen it, or he would not have made an anti-shape move as the marked stone. I'm willing to assume that both of you older brothers will see all of this too.
I suggest that you black players similarly assume that Chew Terr will see this sequnce. I obviously see it, and Shapenaji will also.

I propose that we jump to the above position. Then it would be Terr's move.
What do you say?[/hide]

To Terr:

Violence · **#482**

Response:

Gresil · **#483**

Joaz:

shapenaji · **#484**

@Joaz

daniel_the_smith · **#485**

Let's try something new:

Approved.

Joaz Banbeck · **#486**

Ok, thanks to everyone for helping speed up the boring parts.

@Chew Terr: Please read the post at the top of this page. I unhid the relevant part. Assuming that you agree to the shortcut too, we are now here:

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..and it is your move.

( Technically, you do have the option of declining and forcing the opponents to find this sequence bit by bit. )

daniel_the_smith · **#487**

Doesn't Violence need to change my move first? :roll:

Violence · **#488**

Haha, I agreed to this sequence.

Don't worry though, I'll be sure to change something later.

Chew Terr · **#489**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 111 W52 B49 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X . . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O W . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Could someone please add the move number and the numbers of captures? I'm afraid to mess it up. Also, Joaz/Shape, feel free to offer any of my analysis as triggers. Just don't do it if it'll help B avoid the numerous

traps therein!

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc 103A W52 B49 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X B . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O 1 7 W . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O 4 3 2 5 . . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . 6 9 8 . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, this is the diagram I posted with my last move. Glad we got this far, now to look at it a bit more.

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These are the options I'm going to look at, so here goes.
a:

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c:

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Option C fails, then. Let's have a look at D.
D:

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E:

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Looks like a ko fight where we have to find the first threat. Obviously there are NO threats this large. However, we could probably live with a small group on top with a threat at 'z'. Even so, this seems like a game-ender... Let's look at option 'f'.
F:

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Okay, so this looks like a false seki (false because N15 would die eventually). Let's look at a variation within this F.
F2:

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Okay, so this seems to be either another false seki or another ko we can't win.

b:

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Could be followed by this:

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Or this:

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10 connects at 3

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9 at 5, 10 captures, 11 at 'a' kills.

Okay! 'b' looks like it works! I think that my brain is fundamentally unable to process any more/deeper, so I'm going with it! To summarize, here is my plan:

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 9 . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O O | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X X X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . 1 X 3 | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 2 4 | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 8 6 . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

10 connects at 3

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O O | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X X X | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O X | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 X X 8 | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . 7 2 O 5 | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O 3 4 6 | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

9 at 5, 10 captures, 11 at 'a' kills.

CSamurai · **#490**

Not for white.

Joaz Banbeck · **#491**

I approve.

shapenaji · **#492**

Approve

Violence · **#493**

To White:

Chew Terr · **#494**

One-move trigger for B

Joaz Banbeck · **#495**

@Violence:

If it is ok with all three black players, we'll take Violence's suggestion, add Terr's trigger, which brings us to this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X 1 . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O W 2 . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...which I hereby approve, and then it would be Shapenaji's turn to approve.

Is everyone ok with this? Daniel? Gresil?

daniel_the_smith · **#496**

I'm ok with that.

OK, I think I see it now. I guess Violence wasn't joking in the thread where he said white could resign. I don't see how white can win once we have a solid quarter+ of the board. No way can white make his entire area into actual points, which they would have to to have a chance of equalizing.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O 5 | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O 2 . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X 1 . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O 3 . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . 4 . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The other hane doesn't work, btw...

White can't win this way either.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O 3 . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X 1 . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O 2 . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...I haven't extensively read alternatives to :W2: in Joaz's diagram. Maybe ShapeNaji will come up with something. It'd be kinda disappointing for this game to come to a sudden end...

shapenaji · **#497**

Not Approved

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 111 W52 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X W . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Does the prisoner count look right?

Joaz Banbeck · **#498**

To observers:

EDIT:

EDIT2:

EDIT3:

shapenaji · **#499**

Joaz Banbeck · **#500**

For observers:

The best that black can do on the right side is to get four liberties, like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O 4 . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X W . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O 1 3 . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . 2 5 . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

And if black tries a straightforward liberties race of white right side group vs black right side group, we win:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O 1 | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 2 . 4 | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O 3 | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X 5 | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O 6 . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If black tries a liberties race of his right side group against our upper group, we have a trick to get an extra liberty:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . 2 1 . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . 3 O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X a . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O c X O 4 b | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black must play both 'a' and 'b' before playing 'c'. We play one move at :w4:

which requires that they play two moves. :twisted:

This gives us an extra liberty.

So it continues like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . a O X b . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X c X O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X 2 O O X 1 . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X d O O . X O O . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...where black has four possibilities ( 'a' - 'd' )

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . 1 O X 4 . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X 2 C O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O C O O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X 3 O O . X O O . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . 4 . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . 3 X O X O . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O 2 O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O 1 O O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X X O O . X O O . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . O X 1 . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X 2 C O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O C O O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O O . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . 1 . O X X . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . O O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O O . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . 6 3 4 . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . O X 2 . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X 1 X O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X O O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O O 5 | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . X O . O X X . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . 3 X O . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X 2 . O O O X X . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X X O O 1 X . . X | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X 4 | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Addendum:

Black can try to get a ko on the right:

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...but white does not bite:

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So maybe black does best to try to get a ko like this:

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . 0 . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X 9 . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O 8 . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O 1 | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 2 . 4 | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O 3 | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X 7 | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O 5 | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...and eventually white will have to win the ko at T6/T7. White only has to win it once. Black has to win it 7 times.

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