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Offline Kerby
 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #61 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:13 am 
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[go]$$Wcm60 Move 60 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . 1 X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ideas:
I am aiming for this:
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . a . O . . . . . . . . . 3 . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . 2 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . 1 X 8 O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . 7 5 6 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I want to solidify the bottom and left side. "a" will be a huge(and sente) move if Dusk Eeeeeeeeagle doesn't respond to 9. after this I will probe the top. If he lets me live in the top it is game over for him. I hope I am reading this correctly its only the 2nd day after surgery but I am feeling pretty good.

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Offline Dusk Eagle
 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #62 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:38 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Move 61 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . 1 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Alright, so he wants to drive me into his moyo. Why? He's not going to be able to kill me: He has his own weak group to deal with, plus I have this connection underneath as aji:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . 4 . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O 2 X 5 . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . 7 6 1 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Or:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . 5 7 , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X 3 O 6 X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . 2 1 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As well, he still has weak points on his left side:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . 1 . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . 2 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . 1 . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . 2 O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The first diagram in particular could be useful for splitting his groups up yet again. But I must make sure I play it at the right time - otherwise, he may just be able to swallow the stone whole without compensation for me.

Did I consider any other moves? Not really. When kicked, a nobi is the only move 95% of the time. Other moves may look fancy, but will almost always lead to a worse result:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . 5 1 . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X 4 O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . 2 3 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Anyway, let's run! Let's fight! (gently). This game is well within my grasp now.

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Offline Kerby
 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #63 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:30 am 
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[go]$$Wcm62 Move 62 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . 1 . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

as per plan.

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Post #64 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:56 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm63 Move 63 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I don't see any better ideas. This is the direction I want to run, after all. There's no reason to connect under yet: I'm not in trouble with my group. He most likely won't want to take away my connection like below because it only hurts his own bottom side:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . C . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Anyway, as you can see, his group is still behind enemy lines, so he'll have to run with it some more. That should make it all too easy for me to barge into the center and live cleanly and easily.

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Post #65 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:30 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm64 Move 64 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . 1 . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ideas:
This is what I love about go, there is so much variation. I don't feel Dusk can seal in my 2 running stones(without causing irreperable damage to his bottom right corner. If I neglect playing where I did my stones in the middle would be in terrible danger. I am still aiming for sente to play on the left side.

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Offline Dusk Eagle
 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #66 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:37 pm 
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Overplay by him? My first instinct is to play here:

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline SpongeBob
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Post #67 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:47 pm 
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White will now apply some sabaki technique ... or what?

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Post #68 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:07 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm65 Move 65 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Yay! A capping move. Now I expect this to happen:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . 3 4 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . . 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He'll still have to watch out for this aji:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O B . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . 3 O B . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O 5 4 B . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . 2 1 , 6 . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If I play it right away, I'll lose my :bc: stones. But if I can find a way to prevent that, then this sequence will be amazing.

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Post #69 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:27 pm 
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Yet again you start the fight! I am a peaceful guy why do you have to go and be so rough ;)
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[go]$$Wcm66 Move 66 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

only move. even if it doesn't work its still the only move. I am pretty sure I can escape. I might not get the sente I need though :(

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[go]$$Bcm67 Move 67 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Interesting move by him. But it's nothing for me to be concerned about.

I considered moves b-d:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . c . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . a d . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

First of all, there's 'a'. But it is rather obvious that this move is too thin:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 3 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X 2 1 7 9 . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O 6 8 0 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Back into the realm of possibility is option 'b'. However, I'm concerned about him playing :w2: and what could follow from that (below is just an example).

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . 2 3 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . 4 X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , 5 . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Next, there's option 'c'. This is an interesting leaning attack. If he responded to my shoulder hit, I would be very happy as my previously rejected move at 'a' then becomes a great move.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

However, if he plays like below instead, he will fare better.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 5 0 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . 4 8 . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . 2 3 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . 6 X 9 . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . . 7 . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . a . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I might consider playing like this if he wasn't quite so strong in the middle, but I just don't quite feel comfortable with my shape when he is so overwhelmingly strong there. Plus, a move at 'a' probably becomes sente for him, and I don't want him to be able to take away my connection in sente.

So, I chose 'd', which was actually my first instinct. (Well, actually, my very first instinct was to push the cart from behind, but I quickly discarded that without thinking further.) Now, he will have to push me from behind, which will only help my shape in the middle.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . 3 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . a . X 2 . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X C . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . b O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'll still have a weakness at :ec:, but I'll have moves like 'a' or 'b' if he plays there, and I can always freely sacrifice a couple of my stones.

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Post #71 Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:08 am 
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[go]$$Wcm68 Move 68 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Probe. If he responds in the corner I will have to run out. If he seals me in up top I will take the corner. After the probe the connection of this 2 groups isn't as clean as before.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . 3 X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X 2 . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . 4 . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O b X 3 . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . a . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm69 Move 69 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I suppose he's trying to weaken my connection underneath. No problem, I'll still just respond normally. I still have various ways of connecting underneath, even if they're not quite as good as before.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X O . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 8 O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X 9 5 7 , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X 3 O 6 X 0 . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . 2 1 4 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Playing like this feels too slack:

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X 1 . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Forfeiting the corner also doesn't feel good:

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X 1 . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X 2 . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now, after making this :w68: :b69: exchange, he will probably go back to trying to escape.

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Post #73 Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:31 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm70 Move 70 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


as per plan

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Post #74 Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:32 am 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Move 71 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The #1 question: could I hane?

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . 2 3 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . 4 X 5 . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

And it becomes a ko. However, I don't have any ko threats on the board! That's a problem. He has a ton of ko threats on me, yet I have none on him (this always seems to happen in my games versus him). So can I, after forcing him to burn one ko threat, simply connect?

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[go]$$Bcm7
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 # O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . B 8 O X 5 . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . B . . O 1 4 X . |
$$ | . 3 2 O . . . . . . . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . B . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O B . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The answer is nope. My :bc: group gets too damaged and I still have to worry about my :bs: :b13: group. So it appears I can't hane.

So, my guess is that he'll extend next. After that, my :bc: group starts to look weak again, so I'll jump out, which also threatens to cut his group, so he'll then connect. I then have sente to make shape in the center.
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . 2 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He could do this as well:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

But it only seems to leave worse aji for him without accomplishing anything else.

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Post #75 Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:26 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm72 Move 72 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #76 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:31 am 
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[go]$$Bcm73 Move 73 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This move threatens to disconnect his group, and at the same time develops my own shape. It also prevents him from playing here and profiting in the upper-right.

If he ignores:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 4 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So instead, he will probably play:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My only concern is that this move might be aji keshi. But I think its benefits outweigh its drawbacks. Hopefully I'm right.

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Post #77 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:50 am 
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[go]$$Wcm74 Move 74 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ideas:
Solid play. If Husk Eagle chooses to tenuki I will cut him apart at "a" if he takes an other move to solidify I will either take "b" or continue a pressing attack. A probe at "c" will happen right after I get "b". The game is rapidly approaching endgame as the groups start to settle.
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . c . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X a . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #78 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:07 am 
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[go]$$Bcm75 Move 75 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I want to make some sort of shape in the center.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 6 . X . 5 . . O X T T |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . 4 3 B . O X T T |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X 1 . O . . . T |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . 2 . O . . X . T |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If he does play :w1: I can handle it very well. The two :bc: stones are not very valuable, especially given that I have made my own bit of territory on the :et: points.

Next, I want to get this move as a probe:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . 1 . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If he blocks on the left:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . 1 X . 2 . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

:b2: connects under perfectly, without damaging my corner and without ko.

Or, if he blocks on the right, I can destroy his left-side territory while making eyes.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . 2 . X . . 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kerby
 Post subject: Re: 52. Dusk Eagle (1k) vs "Kerby" (2k)
Post #79 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:33 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm76 Move 76 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Ideas:
I fear if I attack I will end in a gote sequence I will take my big moves first then turn and see what I can do. This move will strengthen the left side, my bottom stones and make a little bit of territory all while attacking his bottom left. Its a great multipurpose move :) I guarantee Dusky beagle will feel insulted by my probe coming up in the upper left. Hopefully it will rattle him a bit. If I get a ko life sequence I will have tons of ko threats attacking his middle group.

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Post #80 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:02 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm77 Move 77 Caps W:1 B:1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

That move is wrong. It's fine when he doesn't have this stone below, but it's not good when he already has it.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . W . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Instead, he should have played this:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . 6 O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 5 O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 4 3 . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 2 1 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If I try to resist being pushed onto the second line, I will either die in the corner or lose the stones I resist with.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . 9 . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 4 O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . 7 X 2 3 . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . 6 5 O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | 8 . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So, his move is slack. However, it does carry it's own threat in it.

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 5 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . 3 X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . 1 2 O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . 4 X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | 6 . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

That's painful. So, I am forced to respond and prevent :w1: from being such a good move. Fortunately, I can do that in sente with my move, at the expense of making him stronger on the left. However, there is very little distance between the wall he gets from responding to my move and his current wall, so he doesn't gain very many points at all. His move hardly seems worth the price of sente.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . W . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Or he can play like below, but that leaves holes in his shape:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O X . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . . X . X X O . O . X , . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X O O . O . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 O C . . . . . . X . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 1 . O . . . . . . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . X . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . . O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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