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Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
I will play Magicwand again at 5 stones. Let's rumble!
So I freaked out before. Magicwand beat me a lot of times. I got upset about it and quit. I said that I wanted to take a break. Well, I took a break. It wasn't a long break, and I am not 6 stones stronger in skill or anything. But I am back. I will win this game decisively, and continue on to 4 stones. Yeah, I got psyched out last time. But go is a logical game. If I play logically, I will win. As I said earlier: Let's rumble! ![]() |
Author: | Magicwand [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
it is pretty much impossible to beat him in 5 stone. but i will try my best. 4 stone and 5 stone is totally different game. 5 and 6 stones are not much different but that stone in the middle gives me a headache from the start. |
Author: | cyclops [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
not for MW: In case you need a amateur mental coach just PM me. Anyway good luck and stay calm. Remember it is a game meant to be fun. |
Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
There are some different options that I considered here. Option 1: Simply defend. If I simply defend, I can respond at a or b below:
In handicap games, I think b is a bit more popular, because it invokes white to want to invade at the 3-3, which will simplify the game. So between a and b above, I might choose b. But white won't invade at the 3-3 after that. He would put pressure on the bottom:
The alternative is to select a pincer. Taking into account our previous games, I would imagine something like this:
or
Well, something along those lines. I think I'll go with the last of these options. He can't do anything. He's also got two running groups. And the person with the base is me. He's going down! |
Author: | topazg [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
@Kirby: I'd be tempted to reassess ![]() EDIT: And ![]() |
Author: | Jordus [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
For Kirby Only: Love the pic of Rock Lee from Naruto... The naruto series rocks... good luck, have fun, and use your way of the ninja ![]() |
Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
topazg wrote: @Kirby: I'd be tempted to reassess ![]() Yup. I'm just making a stab in the dark based on what he's played before against me. Another interesting option, for example, is ![]() |
Author: | topazg [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
Kirby wrote: Yup. I'm just making a stab in the dark based on what he's played before against me. Another interesting option, for example, is ![]() Yeah, or ![]() |
Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
Jordus wrote: For Kirby Only: Love the pic of Rock Lee from Naruto... The naruto series rocks... good luck, have fun, and use your way of the ninja ![]() Thanks, Jordus. I like the series, too. |
Author: | Magicwand [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
i guess by now everyone guessed that i will jump at 3. near future i will have to play unorthadox move to rattle him. if not i dont have any chance of winning. |
Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
First, I don't want to get sealed in. For example, if I played to make a base on the bottom:
...This would be bad. So I want to help my right corner stone. The options I'm thinking of are a and b (a large keima also comes to mind, but seems loose):
The move "b", above, is a solid move. It is pretty safe. The problem is, it puts little pressure on the white stones. I want to play "a", because it keeps the pressure on his white stone. |
Author: | Magicwand [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
this move is one way to avoide my group getting attacked. in a handycap game it is vital that i make sure my group is not a target of attack or you will lose the flow and the game. below is what i will play after his answer.
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Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
I thought about two options. Option 1: Get a base on the bottom. The thing with that, though, is that I can get sealed in:
My groups are fine, but white's stones are rather effective since they seal me in in the bottom right. Option 2: Simply extend along the side. This has the implications of getting pincered on the bottom. For example:
So my stone at the bottom has no base. That's fine, though. His stones aren't super strong, so I can fight with that. I think the exchange here is better for black than for white:
I'm getting potential territory on the right, while white gets some influence that is already negated by my center stone. If we fight here, the fight will be favorable for me. Bring it on. |
Author: | Magicwand [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
he is moving as i expected. now let me see if he play as below.
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Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
I can't think of a better option than extending. Of course, I can respond as in the following diagram, but he would get a base easily, and I'd have none. For example:
For now, I will simply make a base. I predict something like this:
Then some attack on my stones (or he'll jump out first). As long as I live, I'm fine... And, I've benefitted, since I get side territory. His stones also do not have bases, so they could be subject to future attack. |
Author: | Magicwand [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
sofar black is playing passive game and losing points. i am guessing he is not fully using his handycap to his advantage. although his stone on the bottom has a base and can live..it might give me flow and influence to turn this game around. i see that kerby's local reading is very strong..now he needs to learn bigger picture of go to improve his game. |
Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
I will continue to profit on the side while he builds some strength. He won't kill my group. His groups don't have bases, either. |
Author: | Magicwand [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
ok..sofar so good. now i am going to throw a curve ball and give him an unorthadox move to rattle him. i have no idea how he will answer this. |
Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
I thought about a few options here, which I've labeled a-d below:
I'll skip "a" for now, since that's the one I ended up choosing. b.) I think that "b" seems to be a move that works OK with the shape of the two space extension on the bottom. However, in this case, it doesn't even really protect the shape, because white can play "x" in the diagram. So it doesn't accomplish that well. It also doesn't put that much pressure on the marked white stones. Still, it seemed worthy of consideration. c.) I feel like playing a move like "c" if I want to make myself live on the bottom. I think that it works OK as a forcing move, and I can make eyespace that way. However, it might be a little "aji keshi", since there are really only four white stones there. Also, it does nothing to split white like "a" and "b" do. d.) I feel like playing "d" a bit to help the corner. However, it doesn't do this completely, and when white responds at "y" or "z" in the diagram, my two space extension is damaged. I think I should wait until my stones are stronger before playing a move like this. After they are strong, then I can go with it. Now for our all-star move: A.) I ended up choosing "a". That's because it works better to keep white separated. I expect white to jump out again:
I'm all for this, though, because I can continue to make territory on the left. My group still shouldn't die. Maybe it'll be something like this:
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Author: | Kirby [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Comeback Match! |
I thought about it some more, and I might just jump out at H7 if white jumps out, again. I don't really want to get sealed in like my last diagram showed. I think I like this scenario better:
The reason I didn't like ![]() Added to that, the marked white stones might become weak in the future. |
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