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been practicing 3-4

I hope to end up with this.

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Not that much of strategy yet.

how unfortunate

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i want this to happen

but i think white will pincer.

and i hate doing this

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and now i don't want to dive into the corner because i don't think i want white having a wall facing my komoku

Let's play unconventional in order to set him off balance I hope to do some kind of fighting joseki. If not I want sente

foiled again!

no reason to complicate
if i end in sente i get the open corner

if he gets to the corner first it's as if we played a normal opening.

hopefully he plays a 4-4 in the open corner because i feel more comfortable approaching those.

but he has no reason to go for the last corner since this joseki ends favorable for his 4-4 stone

Avalanche:rambo:

aw man this is what i'm afraid of. something with lots of variations and no joseki book to lean back on.
i have a feeling i'm going to make a mistake early here and then the whole game will fall apart.

i've heard horror stories about this joseki spanning across the board hopefully i can find a way to make this easier even if it costs me very bad local result.

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this is my next move.

Only move for white.

after this i'll probably get lost. I've seen enough sgfs with this joseki that i might recognize a few patterns but right now it's just about extending and not getting hit on the head.

Alternatively, Black could opt to play the Small Avalanche instead (see below), but it's still complicated.

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There are some simpler variations instead of either of the 's proposed, like the double hane or just connecting black's cut point, but honestly, just about anything is simpler than the large avalanche.

i don't like this at all. I really don't want this to become an avalanche game where i lose because i didn't know the variations.

3rd line territory is supposed to be even. so if he tries to take the corner i'll extend then turn on him and approach his 4-4 stone.

otherwise i get to keep the corner and he needs to make a move on the right so that i don't just negate his wall.

then i can get the last corner.

Booh no complicated joseki. Ok then I need to think of a new plan while I build more wall

so now i want to turn on his group
i see a cut point but i'm not sure how to exploit it
as far as i can tell simply extending along the side is good enough to defend it

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I think a is the only move otherwise i turn and his position starts to crumble.

I don't know why i'm getting nervous already, i feel like i'm in a bad position but I know that's ridiculous.
I'm not sure what part of the game is my strength, but the fact that otenki wanted to play out the avalanche joseki is psychologically intimidating.

5-3 ! Pseudo influence from the shin fuseki era

lots of thoughts.
this is a type of playstyle i'm not very accustomed to.
Most games i have sente a majority of the match


I did expect him to eventually play the 3-5 stone based on his other game.

but this seems the wrong time to tenuki.

if only because i can turn and he has to respond.

i'm having trouble deciding where to play though

local


3-3 invasion



dealing with the 5-3 stone

in the end i decided this can't be a bad move.

threatens to develop the top side
threatens to cut the group

but now i'm having second thoughts cause it allows him to fix the cut indirectly