When to invade/reduce - please review for black

Degan · #1

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While attempting to use my own strengths, I created a week group and as a result allowed my opponent to create a huge group at the bottom. Of course there may be other systematic error that I do not even realize.

I have gone through the game and made comments (in the attached version, not in the inline version) at various moves.

Thank you in advance.

Degan

EdLee · #2

Hi Degan,

Quote:

please review for black

You were

; did you want to review for your opp ?

Grabbed the comment-free version off KGS.
General comments up to LL corner fight:
sense of what's big and small, off ;
slow, gote sequences ; making weak groups for yourself:

Joaz Banbeck · #3

I'm going to assume that the OP means literally what he said.
The following is a review for black.

Degan · #4

Hello EdLee,

Thank you very much for the review. I was white and I appreciate you seeing through my erroneous subject.

You have given me some great things to work on in my next games. I expect I will go through your review more in the future to work on my shape.

I approached what I can see as the small area on the lower right, as I was concerned about not having the chance to invade later. I now see that I must continue to look for and playing into the largest remaining areas. When my opponent made several two space extensions on the fourth line, I thought of that as an overplay, that I would find a weakness to exploit, but my local play was wrong.

First, I will research what is Leela and how to "ask" it.

Thank you,

Degan

Degan · #5

Hello Joaz Banbeck,

I appreciate you making a review as well, and following my stated request. I also appreciate that you showed variations for white as well as black.

I will have plenty to try to apply in my next games.

Thank you,

Degan

EdLee · #6

Hi Degan,

Currently it's a bit of work; please see under Computer Go
from the main forum. Examples:
LeelaZero
Lizzie

Degan · #7

Hello EdLee,

EdLee wrote:

Currently it's a bit of work; please see under Computer Go
from the main forum. Examples:
LeelaZero
Lizzie

I did not have much trouble. I went to https://senseis.xmp.net and searched for Leela. This game me the link to: https://www.sjeng.org/leela.html where I was able to download a Windows installer, that went smoothly. I loaded this game and went through the moves. It is interesting.

Thanks,

Degan

dfan · #8

Note that when Ed says "Leela" he means "Leela Zero" (I think). But Leela is good to analyze with too, just not as strong (which is not always a bad thing).

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