hailthorn011 wrote:
Knowing joseki sequences really helped me here, in my opinion.
Careful... In fact it was you who departed from the joseki sequence first (r2). However, it so happened that the stone at q10 meant the refutation of r2 no longer worked, so it was a mistake of white's to play the joseki move at r8.
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[go]$$c Without q10, r2 big mistake
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But with q10 in place, this clamp at p8 doesn't work as r9 becomes atari when it wouldn't otherwise be:
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[go]$$c With q10, r8 mistake
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The reason r8 is usually a good move is due to the following sequence:
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[go]$$Wc Why r8 usually good
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After white lives in the corner, black now has 2 problems at
a and
b and can only fix one (which one he chooses depends on the whole board position).
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[go]$$Wcm11 Why r8 usually good contd.
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If white doesn't play r8 then the sequence goes as below. After white defends at
a, black can fix at
b. Using tewari, if white played r8 now, black would of course just capture at r9. However, by playing it earlier white makes black answer r8 at q7 which is obviously rather stupid.
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[go]$$Wc Bad without r8
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So if you read that the clamp didn't work, then congratulations

. However, my suspicion is that you were lucky your opponent also knew joseki sequences and played them without bothering to look at the stones actually on the board

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P.S. his double approach at r6 was an overplay and I expect he did it because of your lower rank; the most severe answer is to play 3-3 yourself and then push and cut when he covers your corner. White then has 2 weak groups and the fight is good for black (so long as you know how to not die in the corner: the straight J group is alive with an extra hane).