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GoCat [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:55 pm ]

Post subject:

L19 Tourney, SoDesuNe/GoCat

Game here. I've added a couple comments/questions for myself. SoDesuNe, if you have any thoughts, I'd like to hear them. Anyone else, feel free to add your thoughts.

Attachments:

SoDesuNe-GoCat.sgf [6.24 KiB]
Downloaded 621 times

Author:	SoDesuNe [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: L19 Tourney, SoDesuNe/GoCat
(; GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[] SZ[19] HA[0] ST[0] PB[GoCat] PW[SoDesuNe] DT[2010-07-05] PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/] KM[6.5] TM[2400] RU[Japanese] RE[B+3.50] WR[4k] OT[5x40 byo-yomi]CA[UTF-8];B[qd]BL[2387.531];W[dp]WL[2391.276];B[pq]BL[2374.465];W[oc]WL[2383.861];B[dd]BL[2352.131];W[pe]WL[2312.932];B[qe]BL[2339.952];W[pf]WL[2311.302] ;B[qf] C[SoDesuNe: Black usually jumps here in the Joseki. Every further push is good for White to build a wall and when Black decides to pincer the wall, White can bend around Black's stones on the right, which should be huge ^^] BL[2335.104];W[pg]WL[2308.893];B[qh]BL[2333.303];W[jc]WL[2301.924];B[cn]BL[2260.561];W[fp]WL[2178.105];B[bp]BL[2204.334];W[cq]WL[2175.838];B[ck]BL[2201.078];W[jq] C[SoDesuNe: Wanted to take Black's natural extension away and making me a nice group.] WL[2174.533] ;B[po] C[I strongly considered D14 instead of this. What's better? SoDesuNe: I think D14 is wrong direction. You're solid with your bottom left group, so you don't need to play near it. F17 is a huge point, maybe G17, too. Both threaten to invade or cap my top right group. Furthermore you're building up a nice little framework for yourself. But then I could attack your Komoku, I don't know if this is better for Black.] BL[2084.155];W[fc] C[SoDesuNe: As I am very bad with Moyos, I think I should have invaded San-San. Black's natural choice of direction would be down the left side, but if he ends in Gote, I would immediately shoulder-hit his C9-stone.] WL[1980.774];B[df]BL[2054.951];W[db]WL[1977.804];B[dh]BL[1981.848];W[fe]WL[1963.609];B[ph] C[This seems urgent, now. SoDesuNe: Very big, yes.] BL[1942.385];W[qm] C[Not unexpected, but I didn't really know how to deal with it.] WL[1913.479];B[qn]BL[1870.726];W[om]WL[1903.787] ;B[pl] C[Just to take away white's shape. SoDesuNe: As far as I know, this is a bad move. Of course, I can't make eye-shape when I connect but at the same time, Black's getting bad shape too (broken Keima R6-Q8). More natural is it to jump ahead of White (I don't think White could live locally), threaten to surround. Your group in the top right is fine and alive. If White moves out aswell, you're jumping with your Q12-stone. Both reducing White's Moyo and chasing White's group.] BL[1843.567];W[pm]WL[1900.721];B[nh]BL[1840.32];W[qp] C[I had this coming, I guess. :( SoDesuNe: Yeah, this was more of a desperate measure. I needed to get some shape, so I could Tenuki and defend my Moyo without leaving too much Aji behind. And I needed to do it in Sente =D] WL[1810.352];B[qq]BL[1809.223];W[rn]WL[1806.447];B[ro]BL[1772.438];W[qo]WL[1804.008];B[rp]BL[1768.488];W[pn]WL[1800.598] ;B[pp]BL[1766.858];W[mf]WL[1747.811];B[lq] C[I think this was bad, giving white the obvious jump in response. SoDesuNe: I don't think this is that bad. Okay, it induced my jump but on the other side you made your corner group safe and picked up territory.] BL[1711.465];W[jo]WL[1742.342];B[gg]BL[1694.687];W[hf]WL[1689.935];B[pb]BL[1534.728];W[pc]WL[1669.519];B[qc]BL[1532.124];W[ob] C[SoDesuNe: One of the losing moves. Defending my Moyo is sooo huge and Black can't really reduce with Q18, at least not so effective.] WL[1666.801] ;B[kf] C[Had to get here before white, I think. SoDesuNe: Yeah, big and urgent.] BL[1451.139];W[kh] C[I wasn't expecting this. Actually, I don't know what I was expecting since there are so many possibilities. I didn't know what to do, so... SoDesuNe: I was clueless, too. One of the reasons, why I hate Moyos ^^ I thought about ataching at L13 or N12 but I could not find a good sequence.] WL[1502.357];B[kg] C[Do something odd!] BL[1341.471];W[lh]WL[1487.017];B[ig]BL[1317.735];W[hg]WL[1426.44];B[ih] C[Now I'm committed to a fight. Not what I wanted. I was hoping for a simple reduction of the white area.] BL[1312.608];W[hh]WL[1420.629];B[ii]BL[1308.632];W[hi]WL[1416.357] ;B[ij]BL[1288.637];W[hj] C[I was happy white didn't play M10. SoDesuNe: Yep, would have been better for White.] WL[1371.304];B[lj]BL[1221.76];W[ce] C[Nice move. I was always hoping to get back to that corner, but it never happened. SoDesuNe: I think this is bad timing. N11 is more urgent.] WL[1298.612];B[de]BL[1203.771];W[bc]WL[1257.401];B[nj] C[Wanted to play C14, of course, but still too worried about white at N11.] BL[1073.461];W[lo]WL[1159.855];B[lp] C[Another of my odd moves. I didn't like it. It helps my stones, but does nothing to white. SoDesuNe: Well I didn't want to be cut here with my right side group weak and eyeless. So I think this move is fine.] BL[1051.613];W[ko] C[But, white obliged by making my odd move into sente.] WL[1113.958] ;B[cf]BL[1046.681];W[cm] C[Nice. I'm worried I will be cut through at C5, B5.] WL[1020.743];B[dm]BL[930.558];W[dn]WL[999.013];B[bn] C[I felt now I will at least connect underneat. Expecting w-D8, b-B7. SoDesuNe: Yeah, I somehow got lost here in the varaitions, so I just went for a Moyo but I granted you too much.] BL[882.854];W[em] C[I' mreally bad at this stuff, but I thought this was the wrong side.] WL[924.988];B[dl]BL[868.453];W[en]WL[889.637];B[il]BL[853.791];W[hm] C[SoDesuNe: Top is far bigger. But well, I had made this little wall, so I had to play consistent.] WL[871.923] ;B[kc] C[No idea what I'm doing here! :)] BL[816.939];W[kd]WL[740.007];B[ld]BL[734.665];W[lc] C[I was worried about M15, instead of this. No matter what I didn't want to be completely cut off and try to live on the top. All I wanted was some forcing moves to reduce, and maybe get some help from the aji of thecut at Q16. SoDesuNe: Couldn't dig through all the variations of M15 and was afraid of losing all my territory here. So I took this instead, but I overlooked O15.] WL[584.892];B[mc] C[I also really wanted to descend at L18, but the only results I could see was a cut off one-eyed group.] BL[569.674];W[kb]WL[461.533];B[le]BL[567.229];W[mb] C[SoDesuNe: White has to play O15.... Black can't cut then... One of the losing moves.] WL[401.952];B[ne]BL[534.593];W[oe]WL[262.202] ;B[nf] C[I'm okay with this result. SoDesuNe: White got utterly crushed here.] BL[530.196];W[np]WL[146.495];B[nq]BL[499.389];W[mp]WL[140.589];B[mq]BL[497.062];W[rj]WL[120.844];B[ri]BL[489.66];W[mm]WL[40]OW[5];B[kr]BL[483.862];W[jr]WL[40]OW[5] ;B[bq]BL[480.442];W[br]WL[40]OW[5];B[je]BL[448.517];W[id]WL[40]OW[5];B[gf]BL[437.475];W[ge]WL[40]OW[5];B[fk]BL[433.433];W[be] C[SoDesuNe: Wrong endgame. E11 is huge and Sente, I think.] WL[40]OW[5];B[bf]BL[431.129];W[cc]WL[40]OW[4] ;B[fi]BL[399.334];W[gh]WL[40]OW[4];B[fh]BL[396.369];W[fg]WL[40]OW[4];B[eg]BL[395.025];W[ff]WL[40]OW[4];B[js]BL[377.278];W[is]WL[40]OW[4];B[ks]BL[376.035];W[ir]WL[40]OW[4] ;B[im]BL[338.53];W[in]WL[40]OW[4];B[qj]BL[259.981];W[af]WL[40]OW[4];B[ag]BL[256.47];W[ae]WL[40]OW[4];B[bg]BL[253.841];W[kq]WL[40]OW[4];B[lr]BL[251.73];W[rk] C[SoDesuNe: Wrong endgame, too. White should play all of his Sente moves first.] WL[40]OW[3] ;B[qk]BL[246.887];W[ql]WL[40]OW[3];B[sj]BL[241.873];W[sl]WL[40]OW[3];B[no] C[Silly move. I should play M8.] BL[215.327];W[mo]WL[40]OW[3];B[op]BL[206.804];W[el]WL[40]OW[3];B[ek]BL[201.827];W[md]WL[40]OW[3] ;B[nd]BL[181.88];W[nc]WL[40]OW[3];B[me]BL[180.598];W[qg]WL[40]OW[3];B[rg]BL[177.784];W[jk] C[SoDesuNe: Totally forgot that H8 is "Sente"...] WL[40]OW[3];B[hl]BL[155.202];W[gm]WL[40]OW[3];B[jl] C[It suddenly hit me that K9 threatens to bring out L12, M12. i don't know if it would work, but it made me panic. Tus, this odd move. I think this should be at L8.] BL[133.519];W[kk] C[SoDesuNe: Again a losing move. M9 might be a possibility.] WL[40]OW[3] ;B[ll]BL[98.437];W[og]WL[40]OW[3];B[ng]BL[96.344];W[oh]WL[40]OW[3];B[oi]BL[92.779];W[qb]WL[40]OW[3];B[rb]BL[89.551];W[pa]WL[40]OW[3];B[ar]BL[61.756];W[cr]WL[40]OW[3] ;B[ml]BL[53.953];W[ik] C[SoDesuNe: Wishful thinking and desperation. -1 point.] WL[40]OW[3];B[hk]BL[42.409];W[ra]WL[40]OW[3];B[sb]BL[36.374];W[ol]WL[40]OW[3];B[nk]BL[12.54] (;W[fl] C[SoDesuNe: Q10... My original plan: (see variation) END OF COMMENTS.] WL[40]OW[3] (;B[gk]BL[40]OB[5];W[pk]WL[40]OW[3];B[pj]BL[40]OB[5];W[nn]WL[40]OW[3];B[cd]BL[40]OB[5];W[bd]WL[40]OW[3];B[ie]BL[40]OB[5];W[if]WL[40]OW[3];B[jf]BL[40]OB[5] ;W[he]WL[40]OW[3];B[ec]BL[40]OB[5];W[eb]WL[40]OW[3];B[cp]BL[40]OB[5];W[qn]WL[40]OW[3];B[do]BL[40]OB[5];W[ep]WL[40]OW[3];B[lm]BL[40]OB[5];W[so]WL[40]OW[3];B[rq]BL[40]OB[5] ;W[ed]WL[40]OW[3];B[dc]BL[40]OB[5];W[oo]WL[40]OW[3];B[ee]BL[40]OB[5];W[fd]WL[40]OW[3];B[ok]BL[40]OB[5];W[eo]WL[40]OW[2];B[co]BL[40]OB[5];W[km]WL[40]OW[2];B[kl]BL[40]OB[5] ;W[ln]WL[40]OW[2];B[jm]BL[40]OB[5];W[kn]WL[40]OW[2];B[sp]BL[40]OB[5];W[sn]WL[40]OW[2];B[jd]BL[40]OB[5];W[sk]WL[40]OW[2];B[si]BL[40]OB[5];W[gj]WL[40]OW[2];B[fj]BL[40]OB[5] ;W[nl]WL[40]OW[2];B[ke]BL[40]OB[5];W[kc]WL[40]OW[2];B[aq]BL[40]OB[5];W[bs]WL[40]OW[2];B[rc]BL[40]OB[5];W[kp]WL[40]OW[2];B[od]BL[40]OB[5];W[pd]WL[40]OW[2];B[sa]BL[40]OB[5] ;W[qa]WL[40]OW[2];B[pl]BL[40]OB[5];W[mc]WL[40]OW[2];B[pk]BL[40]OB[5];W[tt]WL[40]OW[2];B[tt]TB[ss][rs][qs][ps][os][ns][ms][ls][sr][rr][qr][pr][or][nr][mr][sq][oq][ap][bo][ao][an][cm][bm][am][cl][bl][al][mk][lk][kk][jk][ik][dk][bk][ak][oj][mj][kj][jj][ej][dj][cj][bj][aj][qi][pi][ni][mi][li][ki][ji][ei][di][ci][bi][ai][sh][rh][mh][lh][kh][jh][eh][ch][bh][ah][sg][mg][lg][jg][dg][cg][sf][rf][mf][lf][se][re][sd][rd][sc] TW[hs][gs][fs][es][ds][cs][hr][gr][fr][er][dr][iq][hq][gq][fq][eq][dq][jp][ip][hp][gp][no][io][ho][go][fo][on][mn][hn][gn][fn][sm][rm][nm][fm][rl][gg][gf][hd][gd][ad][ic][hc][gc][ac][pb][nb][lb][jb][ib][hb][gb][fb][cb][bb][ab][oa][na][ma][la][ka][ja][ia][ha][ga][fa][ea][da][ca][ba][aa] BL[40]OB[5]) (;B[pk];W[kl];B[km];W[gk];B[jm];W[lm];B[lk];W[gl];B[kj] ;W[kn];B[jj] C[SoDesuNe: But I had too few liberties... (Furthermore Black could defend the other cut, resulting in no Semidori at all)] )) (;W[pj];B[pk];W[ok];B[qi];W[oj]))

Author: Harleqin [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:20 am ]

Post subject: Re: L19 Tourney, SoDesuNe/GoCat

I am wondering what extension you are talking about. Do you perhaps imagine a black shimari on the right?

Kie vs LovroKlc

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B Kie vs LovroKlc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . W . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . W . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

There is no shimari yet. At this point, you can simply deny the shimari.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . W . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

As long as Black has not made the shimari, the lower side is low and not so interesting.

Finishing the lower left shape with one move gives you time to go to other important points.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . W . . . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . W . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Author:	Jonas [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:53 am ]
Post subject:	Re: L19 Tourney, SoDesuNe/GoCat
I really like this as an example of when an lower-keima is a good answer to the corner kakari on the left Quote: Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . O . . . W . . . . O . . . . \| $$ \| . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Furthermore I like to add to Harleqins explanations, that the marked stone (in the upper diagram) now feels low, doesnt he? I think directly playing a high move feels much better, because you dont want to take low territory, you want to build something hugh with this wall. Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . . . \| $$ \| . . . X . . . . . W . . . . . , X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . \| $$ \| . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ \| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \| $$ ---------------------------------------[/go] Here are some quick notes regarding the game and your comments: Move 9 is also some kind of joseki. Black plays it if he doesnt like to possible white attachment at R17. Black takes much thirdline territory, but gives White much strength in return, this is completely fine. I think the result of the lower right battle is a success for white.Therefore black shouldnt attach with move 27, but play the iron pillar (my style). Move 40 looks kinda slow, Black still can do something, I think taking the corner at c17 feels more important now. I would answer Black 43 with a one-space jump at k15. All in all Black 43 already doesnt feel good, there is no potential big territory in the center so black shouldnt play g13 to strengthen White and then jump in, but should jump in directly at k14 or maybe k15. Sry for not creating some diagrams, I'm in hurry right now, maybe I'll add some later.

Author:	SoDesuNe [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: L19 Tourney, SoDesuNe/GoCat
Harlequin I don't know, if I should laugh or weep about the nonsense I've thought. You're absolutely right. Jonas Thank you, too. As said, I almost always collapse with Moyos. I never know how big or slow defending is, where to defend to not become over-concentrated and playing on the fourth almost always feels inferior to me, when it's not a San-Ren-Sei-formation... Long way to Shodan, it seems ^^

Author: Dusk Eagle [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:48 am ]

Post subject: Re: L19 Tourney, SoDesuNe/GoCat

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm27 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Let's say that when you kicked, white responded with :w28:

. Would you then go on to play the :b29:

exchange?

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Of course not! When you see it this way, you realize that your peep at :b29:

did not destroy white's shape at all, it only made him stronger. It also emphasized your own weakness in the corner at :ec:

, which is one of the problems with kicking in the first place. Before the :b29:

exchange, you did not have as big of a weakness at :ec:

, and you also had the option of wedging right through his shape whenever you wanted. So :b29:

is both aji-keshi and a move that makes your own shape weaker.

Author:	GoCat [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: L19 Tourney, SoDesuNe/GoCat
Much appreciation for all the input. Definitely the kick at 27 was bad, and the peep worse. I definitely like Jonas's suggestion that the iron pillar would have been a nice response.

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