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Author: | gostudent [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:09 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Game review request on how to attack a weak group | ||
I am playing black in this game. I have tried to attack three weak white groups, but I do not think I attack them efficiently. I resigned after I made a mistake in my third attack. Some questions: 1. When white did not complete the joseki at W12, I want to attack his group. I picked K17 since it is also a natural extension from the 4-4 point. Should I play elsewhere? 2. At B19, I want to strength my stone at D5, but I am not sure what to do. I don't want to attach at C3 immediately because I want to get some influence to attack white left middle group later. So I picked F4 first, and then settle latter by playing at C3. Would that be a good choice. (Of course, this group ended up being killed......) 3. At B27, I have thought about kicking at P17 instead, but I am kind of worried about my group at the top center. So I strength that group first. Unfortunately, that gives white a easy time to enter 3-3. Am I too paranoid here? 4. At W36, white deviate from the joseki and this is the major first fight of this game. I am not sure if I handled it correctly. I tried to make some territory at the right side during the attack, but my B53 move is bad, and I dealt with the W54 invasion badly. Perhaps I should play B53 at R7 or even R8? 5. I incorrectly assumed that B71 is sente, which is, of course, not really..... 6. I tried to attack both white weak groups at B83. When I played B95, I am hoping to cut off the escaped path of white, but I made a mistake and allow white to live in sente. Not only that, at B105, there is also a cutting point that would potentially make my top group at risk. 7. At B107, I don't want to let white settle and so I chose the aggressive placement. And I resigned after another fight, which I made a mistake and my group was cut off. I would really appreciate any review of this game. In my typical games, I would get one or two fights, but this time I got three, and I don't think I handled them well. Thanks.
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Author: | DrStraw [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Game review request on how to attack a weak group |
To kill the top right group you should play hane and then a placement at T18 when he blocks. The group is then dead. |
Author: | EdLee [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:48 pm ] |
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DrStraw wrote: To kill the top right group you should play hane and then a placement at T18 when he blocks. The group is then dead. Hi GoStudent, this L&D alone is already worth this game.There are still variations after the ![]() Other ideas: |
Author: | gostudent [ Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Game review request on how to attack a weak group |
Thank you for all your comments! They are very helpful. With respect to the life-and-death problem: I have considered the following sequences. It seems that white has a way to escape in the second sequence. I have also tried to find a sequence that will lead to a ko, without letting white escape, and I was unable to find it either. One of the major nuisance is that B7 cannot be played at (a). Did I miss a sequence of killing without letting white escape? With respect to the "squeeze" comment. Are you referring to the following sequence? In the actual game, this sequence would be very good for me, because I can connect the top center group to the top left corner, and making the white group floating. |
Author: | oca [ Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Game review request on how to attack a weak group |
gostudent wrote: I have also tried to find a sequence that will lead to a ko, without letting white escape, and I was unable to find it either. Not sure I got it right, but I think this would set up a ko... |
Author: | EdLee [ Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:17 am ] |
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gostudent wrote: Hi GoStudent, you missed at least the two ![]() plus more B stones to the left. This affects many things. Yes, to the squeeze. |
Author: | Sennahoj [ Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Game review request on how to attack a weak group |
gostudent, ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Charles Matthews [ Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Game review request on how to attack a weak group |
gostudent wrote: I am playing black in this game. I have tried to attack three weak white groups, but I do not think I attack them efficiently. You don't quite have the knack of attacking. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() After Black 135 the decent attack goes wrong, so you need to play on the other side. |
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