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 Post subject: Review request 4kyu vs 6kyu
Post #1 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:43 am 
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Hello,

i played a decent game overall i think, but defending the moyo in KO was probably the worst thing i did in this particular game

https://online-go.com/game/46732684

I was confident around the midgame, that i was far ahead and in the end i should had won the game i think.

Maybe somebody can relete to the KO issue in the midgame.

Have fun and enjoy your games!

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 Post subject: Re: Review request 4kyu vs 6kyu
Post #2 Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:48 am 
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Scrap_trap_ wrote:
i played a decent game overall i think, but defending the moyo in KO was probably the worst thing i did in this particular game

I was confident around the midgame, that i was far ahead and in the end i should had won the game i think.

Maybe somebody can relete to the KO issue in the midgame.

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It wasn't ko fight. (your opponent would have known…) :)

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Easy and simple. why didn't you do like this?
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 Post subject: Re: Review request 4kyu vs 6kyu
Post #3 Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:05 am 
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On the ko: at 141 I would reply. The left & center can become 80+ points of territory.

At 47 and 53 you can develop the left side by jumping on the 6th line. You seem to love this type of attachment-probes but they are more elaborate techniques. Not so easy to keep sente with those, while you have sente and really want to develop your biggest potential.

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