Me vs. GNU Go computer (7-8k?)

Ribab · #1

This computer player always beats me, but I finally won. I was surprised how good a computer can be, and I think that this computer probably uses the extensive pattern and joseki database that the site hosts to play really good.

I still think that I could use critique. If anyone would like to critique on my play it would definitely be welcome.

The site that I played on was Eidogo.com

Sorry, I don't know how to load SGF files from eidogo.com, but here's a link.
http://eidogo.com/#1LfuAyi

you can comment on each move by choosing the "Edit Comment" tool.

Make sure to click "Save to server" after commenting and editing the game.

EdLee · #2

Ribab wrote:

I don't know how to load SGF files from eidogo.com,

Click "Download SGF". Here's your game, with a few notes:

Ribab · #3

Thank you for your comments. Why is that broken shape bad though? It worked didn't it?

karaklis · #4

I doubt GnuGo is 7-8k. I can beat it easily with three stones and I am only around 6-7k myself.

EdLee · #5

Ribab wrote:

Why is that broken shape bad though? It worked didn't it?

No, it didn't. On move 20, for example, W can hane at Q7 and B has no good reply locally.

Numsgil · #6

karaklis wrote:

I doubt GnuGo is 7-8k. I can beat it easily with three stones and I am only around 6-7k myself.

GnuGo is much stronger tactically than it is strategically. If you keep your distance and avoid complicated fights it's maybe 8k, but if you actively engage it and try to kill its groups, etc. it's more like a 6k (KGS ranks, maybe +/- 1 stone).

As a relatively recent milestone, I went back to GnuGo and was finally able to win an even game against it through tactical brute force instead of strategic trickery (that is, I out-read it locally in a number of places). Before that, I was able to win against GnuGo by surrounding its groups from a distance and forcing it to live small or just dying from carelessness, but it usually got the upper hand in any local fighting, so I had to play pretty passively in local fights and rely on GnuGo running out of eyes.

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Though if you're DDK, gnugo might as well be God for how effectively it will stomp you

Even when it makes a mistake it's not at all clear that it wasn't just part of its grand master plan. I think it's a good low-stress way to gauge progress and try out ideas when you're just starting out.

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