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| Author: | kysea [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:38 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | 5k vs 5k game | ||
Hey everyone, can you please help me analyze this game? Apart from the mistake towards the end (really a horrible mistake) - I don't know what else I did wrong and yet white was ahead of me by 30 pts. I'm black of course. Thanks in advance!
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| Author: | daniel_the_smith [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5k vs 5k game |
Here's a review through move 160. Hope I am not too harsh.  EDIT: For move 33, J18 is clearly much better. |
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| Author: | sholvar [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5k vs 5k game |
I am 4k, so not much stronger. But what I see of other players in my ranks is that I focus much less on fighting skills and much more on understanding how to make territory. So I think, my advice can still be helpful. I think the biggest thing here is that you don't understand the meaning of your own opening. Until move 10 everything is fine. You try to play super-huge moyo. I like that. But then you invade with 11. Why that? If you have the bigger moyo, you want to build it to territory, protect it, improve it, grow it, whatever. But you definitley not want to invade the other ones area. 34: Can you see how huge that move is? Can you see how much N13 hurts you now? 75: A huge move. This one stone will make you more points then the whole group at the top side. Probably one to the left would even be better, protecting your corner a little better and staying away from your huge wall on the right. 106: Now your wall makes no points at all. 113: When will you play D10? It's waiting there since stone age. K8 will do nothing. Doesn't save a threatened group, doesn't attack a weak opponents group, doesn't make points, doesn't make moyo. 136: Here I'd say "gg" without even counting. Why's that? Your basic idea of your opening: to form big territories somewhere through leveraging a super-huge-moyo, was finished of by your opponent now. Your opponent really is not a good player and surely didn't win out of genius. First he just made some strong corners (nice thing if you want to invade) and started step by step to go in every place, where your stones should make territory. First on R6 what was a nice move to attack you in many ways while making a little more territory. Doing something like this and not totally f*cking up always ends up making territory (reminding you that he is backed up with 2 strong corners not a huge but weak moyo, while invading). In exchange for this territory he made on the right side, he had to give you some wall. That wall is also huge, so he attacked it next with M9 (what not might have been the best idea if you didn't just defend but attacked with the strength of your wall and a moyo in all directions around that M9 stone). Then he went to the open right side that was just screaming to get some attention, because it should have been considered earlier by both players. And lastly he moved to your bottom side (2 times successfully, probably even killing a bunch of stones). I'm sorry for my lack of niceness. This way it's more clear what I mean.  I want to encourage you to get some basic theories in your head. Especially learning to understand what is weak and what is strong will help you a lot if you just apply "defend when weak, attack when strong". Here you often looked for the fight, when you where in the weaker position, so your opponent ended up gaining more points.
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| Author: | EdLee [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 5k vs 5k game |
A few ideas: |
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