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First Game Listed... Am I too slow/playing too safe?
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Author:  hettingerjm [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  First Game Listed... Am I too slow/playing too safe?

This way a game I played today, and I was relatively happy with my performance, but I think I made several moves that are just too small, but not sure where. The only reason I won was a monkey jump at the end the opponent did not know how to respond to. I am trying to learn how to expand securely, but I believe I am playing too safe. I was white by the way.

Any thoughts or quick suggestions? My main study recently has been tsumego (mainly tesuji since I focused on l&d so long.) and just playing on KGS. Thanks for any tips!


Author:  xDragon [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: First Game Listed... Am I too slow/playing too safe?

6. this joseki is only good when playing as b in handicap game or if you have a stone around k16. otherwise if it plays out as normal (e17 f16 d14 k16) its too good for b

20. think b18 is fine

176. that move is pointless. if you have to play locally then e13 is far better

190-207. thank your opponent for letting you win the game

220. r8 instead, worth more

Author:  Joaz Banbeck [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: First Game Listed... Am I too slow/playing too safe?

Overall, you played a remarkably error-free game for a 12K. :clap: You made none of the mistakes that usually plague DDKs. Where you have room for improvement is in the area of efficiency. Many of your moves are just a bit too safe, and and a bit too conservative.
Try playing more aggressively.

Move 6: See viewtopic.php?p=36322#p36322

8: Yes! If he should take it, and does not, then your best move is to take it yourself.

12: See 6

16: B16 locks him in – and eventually kills him.

32: What does this stone do?

Author:  hettingerjm [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: First Game Listed... Am I too slow/playing too safe?

xDragon wrote:
6. this joseki is only good when playing as b in handicap game or if you have a stone around k16. otherwise if it plays out as normal (e17 f16 d14 k16) its too good for b

I definitely did not know this... Thanks

xDragon wrote:
220. r8 instead, worth more


<--- I should have seen this in my review but I didn't... :-/

Joaz Banbeck wrote:


That helped a lot, and I can see in your suggested moves I definitely am playing closer moves in trying to play it safe, but they are not as secure as your suggestions, even though the spacing is further.

I need to play a little more aggressively,and just stop being scared of losing stones.

Thx all.

Author:  Joaz Banbeck [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: First Game Listed... Am I too slow/playing too safe?

hettingerjm wrote:
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:


That helped a lot,.


If you liked that, maybe you might like the page where it is referrenced: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=667


PS: Welcome to the forum.

Author:  hettingerjm [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: First Game Listed... Am I too slow/playing too safe?

Joaz Banbeck wrote:
If you liked that, maybe you might like the page where it is referrenced: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=667


And there goes the rest of my night to study... :) Thank you

Author:  Sumatakyo [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: First Game Listed... Am I too slow/playing too safe?

I think you need to take a broader look in the opening and see if your stones are alive or not.
Once they are alive, play somewhere else because it is usually much bigger (by either taking a big point or attacking an opponent's group that is not alive yet).

For example the fight in the upper left lasted too long for my taste, I would have tenuki'ed earlier.

Very nice play, just a little on the safe side at times. A little more reading and you could have taught black a few lessons. :rambo:

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