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Author: | bobswersky [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:57 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Very passive game | ||
Hey all, this is my first game post for review. I was white, it was a three stone handicap game. Any remarks are greatly appreciated! As for my own ideas: I think I was too passive in the game. After ![]() 19: Looking again, it seems like a strange play. Maybe I should have played R11 instead 45: This cut seemed like a good idea, but he was too strong, though I did get the opportunity to slip underneath his black stone... 57: Mistake. I should have just kept marching along I think, which is why I lost 3 stones, and he was able to nudge into my center. 87: This seemed good. I was trying to cut black and I was hoping to gain a few points, I wonder if I could have done better. 129-135: Reading mistake on my part. I feel like I should have invaded into the lower left at some point in the early game, I am just not sure when. Thanks again for any comments!
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Author: | cyclops [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:03 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Very passive game | ||
bobswersky wrote: Hey all, this is my first game post for review. I was white, it was a three stone handicap game. Any remarks are greatly appreciated! As for my own ideas: I think I was too passive in the game. Agreed, see diagram for further comments; but remember I am only 7 kyu so better comments will surely follow. BTW I think your opponent played quite strong for an 11 kyu, so no need to feel bad.
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Author: | judicata [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Very passive game |
Here are a few comments--take them with a grain of salt, etc. Quote: I think I was too passive in the game. I agree ![]() Move 5: I don't like this move - it doesn't pressure black at all, and doesn't secure any territory. If white wants to break things up a bit, he can play something like D12, or just C17 and complete the common joseki. Move 7: This is another passive move, and it doesn't prevent black from getting a "double wing" formation, while the similar move at K3 would. But I would probably approach at F3. I like the R14 approach too (though if white K16 was at K17, it would be nicer IMO). Also, you should know that black's extension with ![]() Quote: After ![]() Move 9 doesn't do anything--the stone at R10 has an extension on either side (so if black approaches from one side, white can extend to the other). Also, I think ![]() Move 11: I really don’t like this invasion—it helps black secure territory. I like C3 better. Move 17: This move secures very few points for white, and gives black a chance to close off the corner. Before this move, white had the 3-3 invasion at R3, which would have been much better. Quote: 19: Looking again, it seems like a strange play. Maybe I should have played R11 instead There is no reason to play in this area—the groups are safe, and only a few points are up for grabs. I still like C3. On the upside, the sequence through 25 has some potential to help reducing later. Move 36: This starts a bad sequence for white—sure white gets a few points in the middle right, but black gets WAY more in the exchange. Quote: 45: This cut seemed like a good idea, but he was too strong, though I did get the opportunity to slip underneath his black stone... Whether an idea is good or bad doesn’t usually depend on the strength of your opponent. Quote: 57: Mistake. I should have just kept marching along I think, which is why I lost 3 stones, and he was able to nudge into my center. The center is always smaller than it looks. Move 65: This just helps black get stronger, removing potential weaknesses. Move 73: Avoid making moves like this—what is it doing? Securing 2 points maybe? Move 75: Also wasted move. Quote: 87: This seemed good. I was trying to cut black and I was hoping to gain a few points, I wonder if I could have done better. Cut what? There is a proverb – don’t cut two living groups. This invasion should probably die. I would D2 and cross my fingers at this point. Move 93: What if black cuts at G4? Move 119: ?? Quote: 129-135: Reading mistake on my part. Yeah—white should just connect in sente. Quote: I feel like I should have invaded into the lower left at some point in the early game, I am just not sure when. Good observation. I make similar mistakes in my games. But timing of invasions isn’t the only issue—it is also avoiding plays that help your get stronger, which makes invading much more difficult. |
Author: | cyclops [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Very passive game |
judicata wrote: Quote: 129-135: Reading mistake on my part. Yeah—white should just connect in sente. diagram1. Connecting at 1 is not optimal, I think. |
Author: | bobswersky [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Very passive game |
Thanks for the ideas. I will try to avoid some of these mistakes, and really try to be a bit more aggressive. ![]() |
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