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| Author: | gogeo [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:32 am ] | |||
| Post subject: | Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? | |||
Hello, since few weeks I can't beat Crazy Stone program on mobile. I am sure, I am missing something simple but important. If someone can give me hint what to improve I will be very grateful. Thanks GoGeo First Game Second Game
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| Author: | PaperTiger [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? |
gogeo wrote: Hello, since few weeks I can't beat Crazy Stone program on mobile. I am sure, I am missing something simple but important. If someone can give me hint what to improve I will be very grateful. In the first game, White is dead in the upper left corner. Four empty spaces in a box is one of a handful of very simple life and death shapes that you need to learn. |
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| Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? |
PaperTiger wrote: ...In the first game, White is dead in the upper left corner. ... Except that those stones are connected to the lower right. 
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| Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? |
gogeo wrote: ... I am sure, I am missing something simple but important. If someone can give me hint what to improve I will be very grateful... Work more on keeping your stones connected. In particular, try not to make so many keimas in the middle of the board. |
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| Author: | emeraldemon [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? |
Crazy stone is quite strong on 9x9. I use the android version ("champion go") on my phone, and I usually let it give me a 2 stone handicap or play reverse komi (I play black and get 7.5 points). I do play on the highest difficulty setting ("5" whatever that means). My advice would be to start with a high handicap where you are sure you will win (maybe 5 stones?) When you win, start taking 4, etc. At some point you should find a decent challenge for your level of play. |
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| Author: | gogeo [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? |
emeraldemon wrote: Crazy stone is quite strong on 9x9. I use the android version ("champion go") on my phone, and I usually let it give me a 2 stone handicap or play reverse komi (I play black and get 7.5 points). I do play on the highest difficulty setting ("5" whatever that means). My advice would be to start with a high handicap where you are sure you will win (maybe 5 stones?) When you win, start taking 4, etc. At some point you should find a decent challenge for your level of play. Thanks I am doing like this as well on champion "GO" my current matrix is following: M = Medal 0 = I can't win  It is just ca. 30 moves... It can't be so difficult.12345 - Level MMMMM MMMMM MMMMO - komi MMOOO - even MMOOO - white komi 0 Other 18 games I won relatively fast... But on last 7 I can't progress at all. It drive me almost crazy Thanks gogoe |
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| Author: | PaperTiger [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? |
Joaz Banbeck wrote: Except that those stones are connected to the lower right. Oops, that was embarrassing. Sorry for the noise. |
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| Author: | Bill Spight [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? |
I would not worry too much about winning or losing, particularly by a small margin. Some comments. As always, no guarantee that I have not goofed.  Main focus: Don't just let your opponent rip your position apart. The 9x9 is a very tactical game, and when White cuts, the resulting position is difficult. Black needs to engage the enemy at that point. One thing that begins to stand out, I think, is how big connecting can be. Another thing to note is how big the diagonal play on the second line can be when either side could make that play. |
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| Author: | gogeo [ Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:40 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? | ||
Thanks again for so many hints - and they are working. Now I beat Champion Go at level3 playing black. Now I have to beat him as white Any comments for this game? Thanks a lot gogeo
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| Author: | Bill Spight [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ask for review: 9x9 with computer - why I can't win? |
Well done! See move 37. |
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