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Offline Drew
 Post subject: Tips on how to headoff invasions?
Post #1 Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:56 am 
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This was a comfortable win, but lately I have been frustrated by my inability to turn away invasions despite having what I feel is a reasonable defensive setup.

Examples in this game would be 140 onwards, and 166 onwards.

In this particular game I very consciously took a bend-but-not-break approach because I was so ahead on points, but I still believe a competent player would be able to stonewall such invasions almost immediately.

I would be grateful for some pointers regarding this aspect of play.

http://eidogo.com/#xAnL0BvV

PS - how to get the nice Eidogo embedded look? :scratch:
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:black: 143: block at M4.
:black: 145: block at M3 -- Only move! See also Toothpaste
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 Post subject: Re: Tips on how to headoff invasions?
Post #3 Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:20 am 
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:black:143 should be one point to the left.

The fight following 166 was complicated. :black: 171 could be at c5.

The more troublesome part of this game are moves :b5:, :b7:, and :b9:.

I suggest asking for some teaching games on KGS for 9x9 and 13x13 to study some http://senseis.xmp.net/?BasicInstinct
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 Post subject: Re: Tips on how to headoff invasions?
Post #4 Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:30 am 
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I gave comments on the opening and both invasions.



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Post #5 Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:26 am 
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EdLee wrote:
:black: 143: block at M4.
:black: 145: block at M3 -- Only move! See also Toothpaste


Thank you.

emerus wrote:
The more troublesome part of this game are moves :b5:, :b7:, and :b9:.

I suggest asking for some teaching games on KGS for 9x9 and 13x13 to study some http://senseis.xmp.net/?BasicInstinct


"Troublesome" made me laugh. Very polite word choice! I was in Bangkok the other week and they preferred "baffling" and "insane". :oops: :lol: Now you understand my stated rank of "infant". Links noted and reading, thank you!

moyoaji wrote:
I gave comments on the opening and both invasions.


Thank you very much for taking the time to play out the possibilities as they are hard for me to visualize/anticipate on my own. :tmbup: I will endeavor to apply this knowledge!
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Post #6 Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:52 pm 
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Drew wrote:
emerus wrote:
The more troublesome part of this game are moves :b5:, :b7:, and :b9:.

I suggest asking for some teaching games on KGS for 9x9 and 13x13 to study some http://senseis.xmp.net/?BasicInstinct


"Troublesome" made me laugh. Very polite word choice! I was in Bangkok the other week and they preferred "baffling" and "insane". :oops: :lol: Now you understand my stated rank of "infant". Links noted and reading, thank you!



Everyone starts an infant, I've read that even Lee Chang-ho was a particularly unimpressive beginner. I very much suggest starting a study journal, it doesn't have to be anything really structured but I think you would get regular followers and support.

The best part of Go is exploring the game and learning new things. People like to be along for the ride. :)
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