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 Post subject: Huge large avalanche variation and huge centre territory
Post #1 Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:16 am 
Judan

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Here's a game I played on OGS which had a very interesting and long variation of the large avalanche joseki which led to a big territory and big influence, and soon after that influence became a huge centre territory, rather too big and easily I thought. Thoughts appreciated, particularly on moves 52 and 58.


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Post #2 Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:52 am 
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Why did you play on the squares instead of the intersections?

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Edit: It seems that I had my zoom set too far out. :lol:

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Post #3 Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:10 am 
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FWIW, through :b57: I think that White has gained a few points. :)

For :w58: I like Q-10. The opponent's play is my play. ;)

For :w60: I have a decided preference for Q-10. Why push Black towards his weakness, the top side and corner?

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Post #4 Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:34 pm 
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Bill Spight wrote:
FWIW, through I think that White has gained a few points.


I wonder what Robert Jasiek's joseki evaluation thingy would say... I also felt it was a bit better for white, but only if I was pro-level at dealing with big influencey moyos.

Bill Spight wrote:
For :w60: I have a decided preference for Q-10. Why push Black towards his weakness, the top side and corner?


I thought if I pushed up black might push down at r11: if white hanes at the head of 2 I feared black could cut with that big wall and the fight would be good for him, though to be honest I didn't read anything past that. If extend then black probably jumps to keep the moyo and then approach/extend and aim to 3-3 on top right or something more to the top side? I added a variation to the sgf (dynamically loaded from OGS).

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