It is an absurd assertion. I challenge you to find anyone who didn't sign up for KGS+ because KGS runs java.


To my knowledge, the Java community is just people who like to program in Java, and help others who do the same. I see no evidence of any political nature to it. Judging only from this thread, the one who is purporting untruths about java is you.

Java is much slower especially if you use objects, and also uses much more memory, and really isn't cross platform because there are all these little problems between platforms. I would be satisfied with that being accepted as fact, however some Java troll will come along and scream bloody murder Java is as fast as C, and id defined as being cross platfrom, and the only way to prove them wrong is to dig through the manuals and even *cough* read the C code it was written and see that they introduce a bunch of indirections, but then they don't know C or what a point is but they know I must be wrong, so really these people can't be bothered to reason about their code. Meanwhile Sun/Oracle is more than happy to keep the performance bench marks out of the manual, which is the only authoritative source on Java, yes that is right a corporate's marketing manual is the only authoritative source.

And no one ever didn't use a program because it was written in Java that's, well another one for the Java crowd to spew.

Constructive.

SmoothOper and others: I just clicked the "report post" button and asked the thread to be split.

If there is to be a discussion on benefits and faults of java (one I think SmoothOper does not even care about, since he is set in his view), it should be held in a thread about it.

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