HE TENUKI'ED! My first instinct is to slam a stone down at O11 as a challenge. However, there's no assurance that I'll get anything real in the attack. I'm going to try to get sente out of this, THEN play O11 (or something like it). There are two obvious responses to my blocking at D17. Either he'll connect back underneath (which ends in gote) or he'll try to live in the corner. If he does that, I'll probably need to invade the top with my wall. H17 is the obvious answer, and seems to have potential, though I'll need to read my responses to G16 if we get a little closer to that. And for what it's worth, if I play O11, it's a ladder-maker for the bottom left.

After my inital (HOW COULD HE!) response, it makes more sense. I said myself that I had no intent to kill these stones. He's saying that I can't, even with a tenuki. If I can't kill them, it will be hard to do much with the influence I get in the middle. So I'll probably harrass them a little, then try to leave the region with sente to get some kind of points somewhere. Either on the bottom, or around B8ish.

my first instinct on white's move: overplay that give a chance to black.
if i was black..i would tenuki and attack white group.
white was winning before that move and gave black a chance to comeback.
then again..it is my opinion.

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[go]$$Wcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . 1 . . O . . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . 4 . 2 . O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is slightly greedy but maybe I will make it work.

You know what? For now, at least, this is bigger. If it becomes such that it no longer is, I can back down and return to the corner. For now though, I would ignore most anything in the top left to kill this group.

Man I thought he would let me get away with overplay, but I guess not. I figured since he let me ponnuki there he would take a passive approach to the game. Well I won't die and I have some...creative solutions for the bottom.

If I were white I'd sack that and hope black spends another move killing it. I mean, they aren't strategic stones in any way that I can see. They don't keep black weak anywhere, they aren't part of a moyo, etc. It looks like a heavy group to me...

Maybe that's why I'm not 4d...

I was about to ask whether white would simply be too far behind on points if it died. But, looking at it again, I guess that area isn't that big (and assuming white could get some compensation elsewhere).

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[go]$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 9 8 0 . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O 6 2 . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | . O . X . 7 3 4 . O . O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X 1 O X X . 8 6 5 O O . X O X . |
$$ | . O . X . O O X . O 4 O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . 7 2 X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Trying to set up miltiple targets for attack. Something like the above. I may try to change the order a bit so that he cannot just exchange for the clumpy group in the first diagram for his middle group. We'll see what I get out of this, but it feels like a fun attack regardless.

nice move.. i like it.
but his variation needs more thinking.

reason why i say it is good move is...
he has a weak stone so he can not attack that invasion.
if he try as below ...it will endanger his weak stone.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O . 1 . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | . O . X . . 2 3 . O . O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 5 4 . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 8 0 . 9 . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O 3 X 4 7 . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | . O . X . 6 2 1 5 O . O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . X X O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Unless I am misreading this entirely, I expect some profit here. I think white's weak middle-right group means that he cannot push me out in any way that harms it. So I may get to kill F17 or live inside of the top, which helps. And I do have aji like L17 to throw around if necessary. I just hope I'm not misreading liberties or something irrevocable.

This shape (letting me connect instead of cutting) is generally a good enough shape for me that white won't give it unless he has no alternative. So I'm operating under the assumption that my reading is correct, and this is the best he could find. The downside is, it ends in gote for me.

Gotta take care of my center group but I wanna start to reduce his influence then deal with the bottom.

I see no reason to sacrifice anything here, so I'll respond. This gives 1-2 forcing moves on the outside to white, but they were his for the taking.

E17 feels more correct somehow, but this seems to remove a bit more aji (like my opponent playing here). Now to see where he goes next.

Slight overplay but I don't want the entire bottom to go uncontested. He should attack my middle group now to make his position stronger, we'll see what he does.