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Offline prokofiev
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #161 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:14 am 
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By my count, the game may still be close if Chew can get a good result on the left while reducing the center-left slightly. I guess he needs to move D7 somehow. E6 looks like a vital spot, but I don't think it comes to much:

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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . 7 . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . 6 5 . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . 2 X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O 1 . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There may be something in C7 though:

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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . 3 . a . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . 1 X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O 2 . b . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here 'a' and 'b' are threatened (or maybe E8 is better than 'a'?). It still doesn't seem like a good enough result though.
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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #162 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:56 pm 
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There are all kinds of possibilities or the left side. If Chew throws caution to the winds, I think that he can win this.

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[go]$$Bc Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 4 2 O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O 3 1 . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , 5 . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Bc Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 6 . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 2 5 . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O 3 7 O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O 4 . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #163 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:56 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , 1 . . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Bc Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . W B . 5 . B B B W W . 1 1 . . . |
$$ | O 6 O O X X . . X O O O . . W O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O B X O C W |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X W B X X W W |
$$ | W X . . 2 2 . . . . B X X B B . . B B |
$$ | B . X B B B B B X X W B W W W X X . . |
$$ | . B W W W B W W B O O W O . O O X . . |
$$ | . B W . W B B O W . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | 8 . X W O W W . . 5 6 . O X O O W X . |
$$ | . B . B W . . . . , . . . X O X X 1 6 |
$$ | B . . B W . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | W B B B B W . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | W W B X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . W O O . W . . O W W W X O . O O X B |
$$ | W . W X W C W O X X O O X O W X O O W |
$$ | B O O X B W W B O X X O O X X X O 5 . |
$$ | B X X C C X B B W B C X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . B O X . X B W W W |
$$ | . . . . . 2 4 . . . . . . X . B B B . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I kind of fudged the boundaries, and totalled 78-75, with me a bit behind. The count may have been a bit optimistic, and it's really unlikely that I'll catch up in endgame, but it's close enough to be reasonable to keep playing. I think I'll play a bit longer, and if I lose 5-10 points in any one place, I'll resign.

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Offline Numsgil
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Post #164 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:10 pm 
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@Chew:

Your counting diagram confuses and intrigues me :P What's with the numbered stones inside territory?

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #165 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:28 pm 
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Your counting diagram confuses and intrigues me :P What's with the numbered stones inside territory?


I was numbering the values of chunks of territory. Regardless of stone colors, two 1s next to each other meant that region was worth 11. This was summing a very hand-wavey estimate.

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Offline jts
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Post #166 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:40 pm 
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I was numbering the values of chunks of territory. Regardless of stone colors, two 1s next to each other meant that region was worth 11. This was summing a very hand-wavey estimate.


That... makes so much sense.
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Offline Numsgil
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Post #167 Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:58 pm 
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Ahaha, yes, that makes sense. That's a good way of doing it, now that I understand it :P

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #168 Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:20 pm 
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Ahaha, yes, that makes sense. That's a good way of doing it, now that I understand it :P


On a real board, of course, I mark the chunks with a dry-erase marker.

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Post #169 Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:58 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X 2 . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #170 Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:09 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #171 Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:27 pm 
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Post #172 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:40 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Okay, so I cannot let me have this point.

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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X 4 3 . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . . X O . 5 O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is terrible. There is no other description for it. I'm going to have to hang tough on the left side, and hope the pain doesn't last too long.

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Post #173 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:25 am 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . 5 X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Aiming to make some points in sente here. This is going as well as I could expect.
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . b . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . a X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . 9 5 X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . 7 O O 6 . . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . 8 0 X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Just ordered your new book! Looking forward to it.~

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Post #174 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:18 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . 6 . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Only move I feel comfortable with. He can't use any aji on the right to kill this group.

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #175 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:27 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . 7 O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

May I have some stones, please?

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Offline yithril
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #176 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X 8 . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #177 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:43 am 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . 9 X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I could be wrong, but capturing in sente seems as big as any small loss I could suffer on the left side for this. After this, if white defends I can still take the star point for points in sente. If white pushes into the left, I'm okay with being forced to capture some stones in exchange for the several points I'll lose.

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Offline yithril
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Post #178 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:29 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . 0 X O X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #179 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:59 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoner Count: B-3 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O O X X . . X O O O . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X X X X O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O X X . . X O X O O O X . . X X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X X . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . O X O O . X . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . , . . . X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O . . . X X O O O X X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . O O O . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X X O O X O . X O O . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . O X X O O X X X O . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . O X C X X . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . 2 1 3 O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I should add the captured stone to 'b', right? Feel free to turn down this trigger.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Yithril vs. Chew Terr
Post #180 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:05 pm 
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@Chew:
Did you also consider capturing immediately? What made you turn that possibility down?

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