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I feel like that's always been the case for the faster time settings. I honestly feel like dan games, say, 8-9 years back are similar to dan games now (though my reading has sadly deteriorated haha).

Edit: Can only speak for low dan games, most of which are decided by point 1.

It might just be me attributing additional meanings to the word "strength", but I generally consider strength to be absolute rather than per capita if that makes sense. Kind of "quantity has a quality all its own" sort of thing.

This is such a fundamentally flawed calculation that I think you need to restart and use "Go playing population" instead of total population. If a reasonable estimate for that cannot be obtained you just admit defeat and try another approach.

A metric where the population is in the denominator ...

This is such a fundamentally flawed calculation that I think you need to restart and use "Go playing population" instead of total population. If a reasonable estimate for that cannot be obtained you just admit defeat and try another approach.

John Fairbairn wrote: I'm sure Sumire is nowhere near the level of Ch'oe - who is? But she has the same grade as Kim Eun-chi yet is MUCH, MUCH superior otherwise (I hope). Kim had to take a year off for alleged AI cheating, you will recall.

I think Kim is very strong, probably still stronger than Sumire at the moment.

As a side note, my personal take on the results is that while the methodology appear to make sense and source sgf/analysis are published, it is quite surprising. I'm of the camp that the modern pros are likely stronger due to a much more structured (and likely earlier and more intense) learning ...

Thanks for the good post Illuck.

There are a few statements that in my mind don't make logical sense, so please clarify:

- Dosaku's opening is comparatively weaker than the ancient Chinese
- today's top amateurs have stronger opening than the ancient Chinese, indicating an advancement in opening ...

Is this a fair comparison, given that old no-komi go was a kind of asymmetric warfare, with Black able to adopt a different style of play from White? Shusaku's consistency ("I had Black") seems relevant to that.

Definitely a good point as well. My personal suspicion is that Dosaku's "accuracy ...

I have also started checking my games, and really concluded that accuracy alone is not really a good measurement of quality. Usually the first 50 moves are pretty good in my online games, judging by accuracy, percentage AI move and top-5 AI moves, but my experience or feeling is that it is not ...

With regards to opening, all had significant differences compared to top pros, but Huang/Fang/Shi are not significantly different from Jowa/Shusaku.

As a side note, even top amateurs had "more accurate" opening than the ancient players, indicating that there have been advancements in opening theory ...

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/03YjCodvYpw8yRJywrXl1g

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I just read a paper using Kata to analyze ancient games which was quite interesting
It compared the "big 3" Ancient Chinese players (Huang Longshi, Fan Xiping, and Shi Xiangxia), Dosaku, Jowa, Shusaku against modern top professionals ...

That's probably a bit harsh. I think the main thing was that Gabriel was too optimistic in terms of trying to expand the western player base to a point where a Go server is financially viable as a full-time for-profit enterprise. You can hardly blame someone who really loves the game (he was quite ...

Just randomly came across this today and thought those who were around back then might be interested. Glad to hear that Gabriel is doing well, despite a couple of slightly heated interactions with him on this forum, I believe he had very good intentions and just underestimated the challenges of such ...

Not sure if someone could confirm the below:

(Unconfirmed) On Baidu Tieba someone mentioned Lee Changho's record is not legit because the Korean Go Association didn't count international games at the time - he actually lost in the third Fujitsu Cup in 1990 (against Satoru Kobayashi by 0.5 points ...

Not sure if someone could confirm the below:

(Unconfirmed) On Baidu Tieba someone mentioned Lee Changho's record is not legit because the Korean Go Association didn't count international games at the time - he actually lost in the third Fujitsu Cup in 1990 (against Satoru Kobayashi by 0.5 points ...