I had a game last night an was behind only about a handful of stones. I started an Invasion at move 279 https://online-go.com/game/5453615 and knew it would only work if my opponent would respond in a specific way. He did as i hoped and i won the game. Is this considered rude vor inappropriate cause i depend on my opponent to blunder?

I don't think it is inappropriate. Last week, I lost a game that way. I hold no resentment towards my opponent, just frustration with my own time management and reading skills.

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Not rude, IMHO, perhaps rather a clever Tesuji? As your opponent there also acknowledged: Well played!

And in the end, I think, there only exist “mistakes”/“blunders” in Go (OK I know this is an extreme exaggeration ), therefore inviting the opponent to make a “mistake”, a “bad” move, is totally within the rules of etiquette. There will probably be some red lines, but TBH I don't exactly know where they are. Maybe such a way of playing is only rude when it fails

For myself, I don't believe I’ll ever stop making mistakes, but I strive to make better mistakes than I did before, and better mistakes than my opponent

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I think there is no straight answer, there are too many things (strength of players, remaining aji in the position, tournament vs. leisure game etc.) to consider. At least I would say that I find it even much more rude to tell the opponent that he should resign in a given position .

In my opinion, the only inappropriate thing you did was to say "congrats" beforehand. The game's not over until it's over, as you found out.

yeah that is true. and i did feel kind of stupid bout that. won't do that again if i am not instantly resigning...
can i excuse myself with the fact that it was 6:00 am in the morning? no, seriously this was dumb.

While we’re all here, I’d like to mention something that really puts me off when it happens, namely when my opponent (IMNVHO big-mouthedly) says “Good luck!”

Why? Because — in my perception — it assumes that …

1. I will need luck to win (i.e. assuming that they are stronger anyway), and that …
2. I will need luck to win (i.e. assuming that my brains are not enough to win the game).

Compared to this, IMO, “good game” is SO much friendlier because “good” is open for subjective interpretation, it can mean so much … it can mean “let’s both learn as much as we can”, “let’s both have an enjoyable/thrilling game”, etc.

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I guess the best I can do then is to reply “same to you ”


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I am a huge fan of Bonobo - but I disagree here. I do not currently wish my opponents' "good luck" online, but I have in the past. And I meant it - not in the sense of you will need it to beat me, but rather that, to play your best, I am hoping your phone does not ring, your internet not lag and your dog not demand to be walked.

Right now, I use two greetings. If the game is fast - usually 20 seconds or less byo yomi, or 25 stones in 3 or less, I say "Have fun". If the game is longer, I say "Play well"

If it the game is in between, like 25 in 4 minutes, I have occasionally said "Have well".

Note that I have been severely chastised for greeting a player on KGS with "Play well" being told I should not be telling people what to do.

Personally, when folks reach out, I think we should assume they are being nice, the ones that are not identify themselves pretty quickly. Any greeting this side of "you will die" is appreciated by me, and I am not upset too much by silence - in fact I am not a big fan of chatting during the game.

A chat afterward is nice. I always type "Thank you for the game" at minimum and I take no offence at "thx" though somehow I cannot get around to having my heart warmed by "th" or "t"

However - I receive no politeness or gratitude from your "thx" if you are gone before you can see my "Thank you for the game"

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I totally agree with you here, and in the case mentioned above, just because of this, I try not to show how much I feel taken aback; my mind knows this.

It’s just that I think that we often are not aware of how ambiguously we are communicating, how differently the messages that we send out can actually be interpreted.

Oh, and I have a text snippet that I usually use as greeting in a new game:

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Personally, I prefer someone to be genuine over some etiquette formula that they've learned from L19.

If someone feels like being a jerk and calls me something less than nice online, it's not pleasant. But that's what they were thinking anyway, so I'd be fooling myself to think that they were a nicer user for saying, "Thank you, sir, for the game", or fake phrase like that.

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This is what they mean when they say that:

3. "I am saying something friendly"

Can I call you sir? Please?

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How's this?

"May you play well enough to give me a good game, but not well enough to win."

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Visualize whirled peas.

Everything with love. Stay safe.

Kahbee-sama, onegai desu.

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The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins

Visualize whirled peas.

Everything with love. Stay safe.

As long as you mean it with all of your heart!

Anyway, all I am trying to say is that, in my book (Kahbee-sama's Thoughts to Live By(?)), sincerity trumps etiquette.

Unless you sincerely think I'm Mickey Mouse, I guess

(Yes, 'Kahbee-Sama's Thoughts to Live By' is a book that's full of contradictions!)

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I feel with Bonobo on the 'good luck' thing.
On the other hand: although I don't like such a phrase, I try not to take offense.
This expression I was told once, has a different meaning to a native English speaker. It's both a language and cultural thing, I guess, so I just assume he wishes me the best. Some may also have been accustomed to 'gl, hf' because of other online games.

I have made it something of a habit to welcome players with 'hello, have a nice game'.
Not: 'good game', because that also seems a bit awkard to me.
Yes, I wish him/her a good game, but not so good a game that (s)he wins, so in my view I wouldn't be sincere if I said '(have a) good game'.

Anyway, someone might also be offended by my habitual phrase: huh, nice game, I want a fighting game and besides that, I will be the judge of that.

Any (reasonable) greeting better than nothing.

This discussion reminds me of an old Chinese saying at New Year's Eve: 'I wish you receive double what you wish me'.

When someone wishes me a good game and I have not already typed a greeting I respond with "Thank you, same to you."

Hi sybob, do you happen to know the original text ?