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Who do you think will win
Poll ended at Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:45 am
John Tromp 76%  76%  [ 28 ]
The Machine 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
Depends which machine they choose 16%  16%  [ 6 ]
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Post #1 Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:45 am 
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Looks like the man-machine Bet is going to take place at the London Open this year. The identity of the machine has not been revealed yet though :) Who do you think will win it?

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Post #2 Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:05 pm 
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I dunno, a couple Monte Carlo bots have made dan level on KGS, but I think the length of the series will benefit the human. I know that's contrary to common sense and the history of computers in chess (e.g. fatigue and frustration I think were a factor in Kasparov's lost), but go bots seem to have specific glaring weaknesses that would be exposed in the first couple games and might be hard to tune out over the course of a series.

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Post #3 Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:27 pm 
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3 Dan EGF (~4-5 Dan KGS) and he will have done his homework on Computer Go. No way a bot can win this in an even game.

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Post #4 Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:12 pm 
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I doubt a current AI has a chance vs an EGF 3d who practiced playing against an AI.

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Post #5 Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:18 am 
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3d who learns against 1d who doesn't, not even close.

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Post #6 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:21 pm 
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Yeah, I don't think the program has a chance against an EGF dan if that player is familiar with how the computer "thinks".

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Post #7 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:19 pm 
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I think Tromp will win, I'm interested to see what sort of showing the computer has. Maybe the computer can win one lucky game.

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