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Author:  apetresc [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:36 pm ]
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I recently made a blog post which I thought might be interesting to some of you, because of the part at the end about my work on Kindle Goban. I know iPads are all the rage these days, and for good reason, but I still think things like the Kindle have a role to play, which is why I worked on this.

Anyway, it's all in the blog post, but here's an image:
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Author:  rubin427 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
Nice work.

I requested a beta invite for the KDK, but amazon couldn't even be bothered replying to my request (nevermind granting my request). It's just as well, considering it looks like you've done a fine job there and saved me the trouble.
Author:  Suji [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
It looks really nice.
Author:  Monadology [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:20 am ]
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Fantastic! I have been the owner of a Kindle DX for about a year now, and this is exciting to hear about.

From the sound of it, once applications are available it could potentially make possible the publishing of 'Books' like Bruce Wilcox's Go Dojo series via Kindle.

Considering the royalty rates publishing digitally through Amazon at the moment (70% to the author) and broader/cheaper possibilities for the distribution of niche books via Amazon/Kindle this could have some SERIOUS potential.
Author:  Darrell [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
I too have a DX and am interested in this. I have tried to convert SGF to PDF, one move per page but the results have been unsatisfactory. The tool I used, SmartGo, does not include comments. Combined with the time to do the conversion, I decided that it was not worth it.

This seems perfect for the Kindle - big enough screen, portable and no need for lots of processing power.
Author:  SpongeBob [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
But how hard is it to extract the SGF out of the Reader? A Go book could then end up as an pirate SGF-download in the internet and I do not think a Go book publisher would want to take that risk.
Author:  apetresc [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
SpongeBob wrote:
But how hard is it to extract the SGF out of the Reader? A Go book could then end up as an pirate SGF-download in the internet and I do not think a Go book publisher would want to take that risk.


I can make it arbitrarily hard within the app; the book can be encrypted if need be, as regular Kindle books are.

I don't think that's necessary though. Current paid-for Go materials (books, videos, commented SGFs, etc) are completely pirate-able (and if you know where to look, they certainly are being pirated) but it seems there's still enough paying customers to keep it afloat... though not exactly thriving :(
Author:  Monadology [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:15 pm ]
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Adrian Petrescu wrote:
I don't think that's necessary though. Current paid-for Go materials (books, videos, commented SGFs, etc) are completely pirate-able (and if you know where to look, they certainly are being pirated) but it seems there's still enough paying customers to keep it afloat... though not exactly thriving :(


Easier and cheaper access makes piracy a lot less appealing. This would certainly apply unless publishers decided to be greedy about the pricing.
Author:  Peter Hansmeier [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
This project looks outstanding! Will the application work on all Kindles?
Author:  apetresc [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:26 pm ]
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Peter Hansmeier wrote:
This project looks outstanding! Will the application work on all Kindles?


Thanks :) Yes, it should work on all Kindles that Amazon pushes the 2.5 software update to; at the moment that looks like it will be both the Kindle 2 and Kindle DX, although I've only found people with Kindle DXs to test on. It looks good on the Kindle 2 in the simulator though :)

I will post some more screenshots of different things it can do in the simulator on both Kindle 2 and DX later this week.
Author:  malweth [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
Sorry for the topic res, but this is awesome -- might make me upgrade my K1 when the time comes.
Any chance of a tsumego app like uliGo?

I do have content... I converted the Cho Chikun's Encyclopedia of L&D books from http://tsumego.tasuki.org to Kindle (mobi) format. They are all images, and very big files (I will look into doing more ImageMagick and reducing the file sizes).

Does anyone know if these PDFs work on the K2, K3, and DX? The problems are not images and may require special fonts not available on kindle (?).

EoL&D Vol 1 (mobi) (10 MiB)
EoL&D Vol 2 (mobi) (9.5 MiB)
EoL&D Vol 3 (mobi) (8.8 MiB)
Author:  Chiodus [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
Any news about KindleGoban?

Best regards
Gianluca
Author:  akonsmith012 [ Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
You did a nice job.
Author:  malweth [ Tue May 15, 2012 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
malweth wrote:
Sorry for the topic res, but this is awesome -- might make me upgrade my K1 when the time comes.
Any chance of a tsumego app like uliGo?

I do have content... I converted the Cho Chikun's Encyclopedia of L&D books from http://tsumego.tasuki.org to Kindle (mobi) format. They are all images, and very big files (I will look into doing more ImageMagick and reducing the file sizes).

Does anyone know if these PDFs work on the K2, K3, and DX? The problems are not images and may require special fonts not available on kindle (?).

EoL&D Vol 1 (mobi) (10 MiB)
EoL&D Vol 2 (mobi) (9.5 MiB)
EoL&D Vol 3 (mobi) (8.8 MiB)


I put these in https://www.box.com/s/52dfe79accce1b251fd0. I don't have my own web site any longer as I've switched to Google Apps for my domains and no longer have any need to maintain a web server.
Author:  SCWillson [ Sat May 19, 2012 3:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
Any thoughts of making a version for Android and/or Kindle Fire tablets? I would dearly love to have an Sgt reader for my Fire.

Also would your current program work on a Kindle Touch?
Author:  mdobbins [ Sat May 19, 2012 7:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
SCWillson wrote:
Any thoughts of making a version for Aneroid and/or Kindle Fire tablets? I would dearly love to have an Sgt reader for my Fire.

Also would your current program work on a Kindle Touch?


anDGS can be side loaded on a fire and has a sgf reader/editor supporting annotations and markup
Author:  pitirre [ Sat May 19, 2012 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
What the kindle fire needs to be perfect is a good GO app for playing online. I don't understand, there is a Chinese chess app, Mancala... come on, even gomoku... but no GO app???

I just don't understand.

Come on KGS or IGS, do something about it! Please!!!
Author:  SCWillson [ Sat May 19, 2012 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
There is a Kindle Fire compatible app for Go. It is AI's Go, and it uses the Aya software. It's pretty barebones (doesn't read sgf files, suggest moves, etc.) but works just fine. There is even a free version (Go Free) but the full version is only 4 bucks. I use it daily when I don't have internet or time for a human opponent.

Just do a search on the Amazon app store.
Author:  SCWillson [ Sat May 19, 2012 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
mdobbins wrote:
anDGS can be side loaded on a fire and has a sgf reader/editor supporting annotations and markup


Thanks, I will definitely give that a try although I'll need to get a friend with a smart phone to download it for me.
Author:  mdobbins [ Sun May 20, 2012 6:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kindle Goban
SCWillson wrote:
mdobbins wrote:
anDGS can be side loaded on a fire and has a sgf reader/editor supporting annotations and markup


Thanks, I will definitely give that a try although I'll need to get a friend with a smart phone to download it for me.


Just download it from my website directly to your device then open it with a file browser. that should ask you if you want to install (I haven't done this on a fire but it works on other devices)

http://www.hellogovernance.com/android-apps
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