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Anyone here use GoKifu to replay pro games?
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Author:  Temp [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:02 am ]
Post subject:  Anyone here use GoKifu to replay pro games?

I'm curious if people use this to replay games regularly? I like to use it because of the Guess-o-Meter. You can play through the game and choose a move and if it's not the right move no stone is placed and you can see how close you are to the right answer. It also gives you a percent of how much you guessed right at the end of the game.

I'm curious what percent people get and how strong they are. I use to get mostly 55-60% but recently I've started getting low 60s quite a bit and even got a 65% recently. I'm about 3kyu. I'm wondering if dan level players get higher percentages or people around my ranking get similar percentages when trying to guess where pros play in games.

Author:  Uberdude [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone here use GoKifu to replay pro games?

I didn't know about that feature! I didn't do a whole game but got about 85% to move 90 of the most recent Chen vs Park game. I was maybe a bit smart in my guessing in that when I guessed wrong at a lull in play where you need to find the next direction to continue I wouldn't keep on guessing (wrongly) until I got it right, but skip forward a move. Do you ever skip forward, or keep clicking until you find the move every time?

Author:  Bill Spight [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone here use GoKifu to replay pro games?

Temp wrote:
I'm curious if people use this to replay games regularly? I like to use it because of the Guess-o-Meter. You can play through the game and choose a move and if it's not the right move no stone is placed and you can see how close you are to the right answer. It also gives you a percent of how much you guessed right at the end of the game.


GoGoD's GoScorer program is based upon guessing the next play, and offers a more detailed analysis of the percentage of correct guesses. :)

Author:  Temp [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone here use GoKifu to replay pro games?

Uberdude wrote:
I didn't know about that feature! I didn't do a whole game but got about 85% to move 90 of the most recent Chen vs Park game. I was maybe a bit smart in my guessing in that when I guessed wrong at a lull in play where you need to find the next direction to continue I wouldn't keep on guessing (wrongly) until I got it right, but skip forward a move. Do you ever skip forward, or keep clicking until you find the move every time?

No I usually click until I get the move. The way it works though is you get half a point if you get it on your second try, a third of a point if it's on your third try. It keeps on going like that until you get the right move.

Problem for me is it seems I do better when I'm more intuitive. When I try to read a lot of times the move I intuitively think of first I read doesn't work, and I end up trying to play somewhere else getting it wrong. However, I have started getting better and better at playing out more sequences of moves. I'm also pretty accurate in the direction of play for most moves, but sometimes I'm off by a space or two or there's a tenuki or forcing move somewhere else before playing the move I think of.

Author:  Uberdude [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone here use GoKifu to replay pro games?

Temp wrote:
The way it works though is you get half a point if you get it on your second try, a third of a point if it's on your third try. It keeps on going like that until you get the right move.

Ah, that's a good idea. I worried that 10 wrong guesses would add 0 to the numerator and 10 to the denominator so wreck your score.

Author:  vier [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone here use GoKifu to replay pro games?

Bill Spight wrote:
GoGoD's GoScorer program is based upon guessing the next play, and offers a more detailed analysis of the percentage of correct guesses. :)

Is that helpful? I live under the impression that GoScorer was found on the GoGoD CD and that this CD is out of stock and no longer available. Similarly, it seems that the Go Encyclopedia was lost. I have searched for it in vain.

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