bayu wrote: And I was secretly hoping that someone analyses this with a bot (the same with Lee Sedol's ladder game).
On a few k playouts KataGo thinks playing out the not-working ladder is terrible for a while...
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until it suddenly realises it's brilliant half way through:
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I'll leave it pondering on the ladder a few moves earlier to see if it works out for itself that it's good for black.
Intersetingly LZ 254, which is usually worse at ladders than KataGo, wouldn't ladder at 66 nor 68 (would f14 extend), but as soon as black plays f13 atari it doesn't want to run out as white with only a few hundred playouts and if you do run out it ladders for black and plays Lee's tesuji so does seem to spot that at the base of the ladder. But then even stranger isntead of run out it wants white to play p17 ko threat, expects black to ignore to capture ladder and white breaks through, but then if I make black answer p17 at p16 (because white running out ladder is not a good move black needs to prevent) it does then want white to run out and thinks that's good for white and doesn't want to ladder as black! But then if you play ladder atari it again realises it's good for black fairly quickly.
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