I decided to take a look the the Euro team championships to see how it had gone and noticed this

Board 1 Rob van Zeijst 7d (vanzeijst) – Ondrej Silt 6d (manocska) 1-0
Team Czechia challenged the result before the appeals commission

http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps

Anybody know what happened that's causing an appeal?

oops, I missed this thread. The time limits were not set correctly.

Additionally there is a claim that the 'league manager' said the time limits were ok when asked by one player. Obviously, this is unverifiable, unlike the time limits.

The relevant rule is: If mistakes in colours or time-settings are found within the first six moves the game should be stopped and restarted with correct parameters. After move seven the (wrong) settings are valid for the game. Wrong komi can be adjusted at the end of the game

Thanks for the clarification. In glGo I may not be able to set up matches easily, but I can clearly see byoyomi settings and maintime in ongoing games.

Do you know if the number changes if you run out of time? Or does it stay the same? And where do you see the number of stones used, e.g. 25?

Judging from that listing, the majority of those taking white were unaware that they might have to adjust komi to 6.5 before starting the game - something to make clearer for the next round, I think.

Yes definitely.

In the pandaGo-Client: Menu of the game window "edit" -> "Change Komi" -> enter "6.5"

Or type in the console "Komi 6.5"

The opponent has to accept the "new" komi in a little window with an ok button!

And I thought after the EGC that if people can't handle their clock it is their own fault and nobody else is to blame. ;P

Article 3 Playing on the internet – general aspects


4. Both captains are responsible that their players choose the right rule-set, colours, thinking time, komi and byoyomi
5. If mistakes in colours or time-settings are found within the first six moves the game should be stopped and restarted with correct parameters. After move seven the (wrong) settings are valid for the game. Wrong komi can be adjusted at the end of the game
6. The player with the black stones invites the player with the white stones at the beginning of the game
7. A game is lost by time if a player fails to play 25 moves in the defined byoyomi period (10 minutes)

seeing the rules (http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/4 )

3.5 implies that the time settings stands after 6 moves. (but at least 3 people are involved in it)

The komi settings can be corrected at the end " Wrong komi can be adjusted at the end of the game" but must it been noticed and claimed before the seventh move?

The sad thing is that (if everything was done according to the rules that Rob van Zeijst should have set the timesettings (rule 3.6) and that both captains are responsible (it is not mentioned anywhere who they are)

luckely the appeals commission ( http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/13 )

has representatives of both countries (and a Russian) What if only one country was represented?

Why is that sad?

if it waa Ondrej Silt who had to set the time settings he (Ondrej Silt) would have less ground to complain. (There is no ground to complain if you made the mistake yourself)

Long story short end. Ondrej Silt accepted his loss on time. I suppose the appeals committee decision will be made public somewhere ... The appeals committee decided that the game should be continued were it stopped with the correct byoyomi settings. Both team captains agreed on this but Ondrej didn't want to continue the game, he preferred to accept the loss on time.