entropi, isn't that just a relatively easy way to play roffles (is that the English word) with one hand, in between the cymbal swing rhythm, on the snare drum? For regular funk or rock drumming it doesn't really make sense, but the old-skool beboppers played their music a lot different.

Off topic: I'm glad my drummer doesn't do this . I used to play bebop piano, but lately the funk got hold of me. It's so sweet...

You can do it with match grip as well, and even easier. For roffles (I also don't know the english word but I understand what you mean:)) ...

Why do we hold the stones between the way we do? It doesn't seem any more functional than using one's thumb as the second finger. Granted there's a coolness factor, but there has to be some historical reason too.

Lets do a gedanken experiment. The game is almost over, the whole board is filled except one last half point ko. You pick up the stone with your thumb and forefinger to try to take the ko,

Now, when you try to take the ko, where does the joint in your thumb end up? You're stuck either dropping the stone into the ko, or messing up the stones around it.

If you hold between your middle and index finger, the fingers tilt away from the board rather than toward the board. meaning that you can actually place the stone in this situation without dropping it.

As my previous post indicates - I agree. But does this really apply to single-convex stones?

As my previous post indicates - I agree. But does this really apply to single-convex stones?

It only took me a game or two to adapt to the "traditional" way of holding a stone, and it just makes sense to me. Also, I saw some people picking up the stone with their thumb and index finger and rolling/flipping it to the traditional grip - if that makes sense. I thought it looked neat, but I never really tried it--now I find that I do the exact same thing.




You're probably referring to different types of "rolls," including paradiddles.

Well it is also a kind of roll but you do it with one hand by pressing the top of the stick against the drum-head then use fingers to continue. Very difficult technique. It has a specific name which I don't remember now. At least that's what I understood from "roffle"

I've only heard that called a "double-tap" or "double-bounce" but I also played flute in high school band, guitar and bass guitar afterward, and only started learning drums a couple of years ago - so I haven't heard as much drumming technique nomenclature as someone who actually studied concert drumming would.

I can do it with match-grip, but I don't think I really understand your explanation of how to do it with traditional grip... not that I ever play traditional grip.

EDIT: while looking for a demonstration on youtube (haven't found yet) I found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP5DfN0F ... re=related - triplet bounces at 240 bpm are pretty dang impressive to me.