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 Post subject: 1001 GoGoD games for your Coffee Break #28(13 February 2013)
Post #1 Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:44 am 
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Our game today is regarded as possibly the oldest surviving sunjang baduk game. In the late 1890s, Paek Nam-kyu, who was one of the two strongest sunjang players, played a series of games with Karigane Junichi, alternating Japanese rules and old Korean rules and this is the first known game of the latter. There are 14 sunjang games in the database, including one played by Yi Ch’ang-ho in 1995; maybe we’ll give you that one later.

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white can not win that game playing such style...

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Post #5 Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:58 am 
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Some background from GoGoD's New in Go, issue 19:
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There were two strong Korean players at that time. One was away on a trip. The other was Paek, who did challenge Karigane. 15-year-old Paek, however, was not a full-time player nor destined to be one. He was to become a member of the Privy Council (he died only in 1970). He had, nevertheless, been able to trounce all the Japanese then resident in Seoul, and so was supported by them, as defeating Karigane would save some face for them. Paek took the seat of honour and Karigane had to play first - but with White, as was the custom in Korea. They alternated between Japanese rules and Korean sunjang go. The uchikomi rule was in force, that is with handicaps adjusted after one player was four games ahead.

Karigane ploughed a straight furrow, beating Paek down to a four-stone handicap in Japanese go and a two-stone handicap in Korean go, without losing a single game. Still, it was not always straightforward for Karigane. In their last game, in a lost position, he won by three points through a swindle. Statesman-to-be Paek praised him as a genius.

(Karigane held a professional 2 dan rank at that time).

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Magicwand wrote:
white can not win that game playing such style...

It looks terrible to me too, but given that Karigane is many stones stronger than either of us, and did indeed win this game (and all other sunjang baduk games he played against Paek), it is apparently a viable way to play :scratch: :lol:

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