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Author:  lordish [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:55 pm ]
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There are so many possibilities that i can't really answer this, anyone have experience in this kind of positions? I gave emphasis to S18 and Q18 responses but i can't get a conclusion.

Author:  EdLee [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:59 pm ]
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Lordish, it's helpful to use a diagram or SGF:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O O O X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . X . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

Author:  lordish [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:05 pm ]
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when i attach the SGF file and i copy the location i get the invalid game data msg, no idea why. I am not getting the right link probably, is this a browser problem?

Author:  EdLee [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:08 pm ]
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Hi Lordish, I prefer to embed the SGF directly in the post, instead of as an attachment.
It should not be a browser problem.

Author:  lordish [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:20 pm ]
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Thank you EdLee it works fine that way.

Author:  DrStraw [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:23 pm ]
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Block at T18 and play S19 after B connects. There are variations in which you may have to give up the two stones to the left, but the corner stones will live.

Author:  lordish [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:38 pm ]
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Yeah thank you DrStraw, i saw the T18 lines that you have to give up the two stones but i regarded them as very bad for white and stopped, i think that it is better to play O18 instead
of N17 and live in gote unless you need the sente for something very big.

Author:  EdLee [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:49 pm ]
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DrStraw wrote:
Block at T18 and play S19 after B connects.
But what if instead of connect at T16, B plays S19 himself ?

Author:  lordish [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:09 pm ]
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T16,P18,P17,O18 and i think that the worse have pass.

Author:  EdLee [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:55 pm ]
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lordish wrote:
T16,P18,P17,O18 and i think that the worse have pass.
SGF would be good. :)

Author:  ez4u [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:05 pm ]
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Connect at P17 and read this page as one general solution that will help in more than this specific case.

Author:  lordish [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:12 pm ]
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Author:  lordish [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:18 pm ]
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ez4u wrote:
Connect at P17 and read this page as one general solution that will help in more than this specific case.

Thank you i didn't know this rule.

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