Here are some threads about shape.
forum/viewtopic.php?t=8136
viewtopic.php?t=13527
viewtopic.php?t=11896
I highly recommend the first one. It was started by a beginner who was very good at hosting interesting and instructive discussions.
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| Author: | Glummie [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Shapes |
How do you make good shapes or know how to do it? |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:43 am ] |
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Hi Glummie, Some sample discussions: MakingGoodShape You can also have your games reviewed ( the quality of the review matters ). Top human games have many examples of efficient shapes. |
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| Author: | Glummie [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
EdLee wrote: Hi Glummie, Some sample discussions: MakingGoodShape You can also have your games reviewed ( the quality of the review matters ). Top human games have many examples of efficient shapes. Hi, thanks for the prompt response. Is that book the best for shapes study? |
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| Author: | Hrabanus [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
Hey Glummie, i don't know which book is the best on that topic, but here is another one: ShapeUp (Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0) You can use this article as an entry point, too: Shape This video by dsaun gets recommended often |
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| Author: | Bonobo [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
“Shape Up” by revered L19 member Charles Matthews is a good suggestion indeed, but I’d recommend to use this (AFAIK latest) edition: http://cdn.online-go.com/shape_up.pdf |
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| Author: | Glummie [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
Thanks for the suggestions! |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
For beginner intro to shape I recommend these 2: - https://senseis.xmp.net/?LameDuGo - https://senseis.xmp.net/?HaengMaTutorialForBeginners (Shape Up is good but probably too hard for a 25k). |
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| Author: | Bill Spight [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
Here are some threads about shape. forum/viewtopic.php?t=8136 viewtopic.php?t=13527 viewtopic.php?t=11896 I highly recommend the first one. It was started by a beginner who was very good at hosting interesting and instructive discussions.
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| Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
I like https://senseis.xmp.net/?GoodShape, particularly the last paragraph. |
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| Author: | paK0 [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
Uberdude wrote: For beginner intro to shape I recommend these 2: - https://senseis.xmp.net/?LameDuGo - https://senseis.xmp.net/?HaengMaTutorialForBeginners (Shape Up is good but probably too hard for a 25k). Was Fan Hui's book ever translated or is it just this one chapter? |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
I'm not aware of the whole book being translated to English. |
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| Author: | Bill Spight [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
This may be a bit advanced for this thread, but I have a comment about Fan Hui's example, the so-called ripped tobi. Here is the diagram for it from Sensei's Library. The problem, as I see it, is that it is on the third line. Presumably Black will play  , else if White plays there the Black shape is really, really, really bad.  makes a ripped tobi. Bad shape, eh? Not at all, because it is on the third line. That means that whichever way White cuts, Black can capture the cutting stone. I sympathize. It is not easy to construct good, specific examples of general concepts. |
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| Author: | Glummie [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shapes |
Bill Spight wrote: Here are some threads about shape. https://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8136 https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?t=13527 https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?t=11896 I highly recommend the first one. It was started by a beginner who was very good at hosting interesting and instructive discussions. Thanks buddy! |
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