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Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
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Author:  SuprunP [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:37 am ]
Post subject:  Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Toshiro Kageyama in his book "Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go" presents us with some life-and-death problems. Here is one of them with mine and Kageyama's solutions. Does mine work?

Thanks.



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Author:  Li Kao [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
White has a stronger move for 4, so your attempt fails.
Author:  SuprunP [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Li Kao wrote:
White has a stronger move for 4, so your attempt fails.


Do you by any chance mean S19?

Thanks.
Author:  Li Kao [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
S19 Q18 P18
Author:  Txewì [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)


Here's how it plays out in full. B can slice off a few stones but W lives.
Author:  Li Kao [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Txewì, you're wrong.

In your second sequence w6 lives, but loses points compared to p8.
And your claim that w is alive after the third sequence is plain wrong.

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I think Suprun's b1 ends in ko.
Author:  blade90 [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
@Txewì: In you first sequence :b5: is gote (white can live without answering). Locally White connects with :w6: to save 3 stones but it is not needed.
Author:  xed_over [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Quote:
Txewì, you're wrong.

don't be so hard on Txewì... the whole point is that SuprunP's "solution" doesn't work (for various reasons).
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