Lines of Play That are Especially Difficult to Read

SmoothOper · **#41**

oren wrote:

SmoothOper wrote:

Doesn't seem like a convincing argument. Better readers read better so play easy to read lines so they can read better. It seems like better readers would facilitate difficult reading conditions, maybe the better readers aren't all that good at reading in the first place, and they just memorized their tsumego and tesuji. :roll:

I'm not trying to make a convincing argument. I'm not going to to try to convince someone the sky is blue either, I will just tell them.

This is like trying to find a way to be a better golfer without actually swinging a golf club.

OK another sports analogy, I don't play golf, but from what I understand golfers prefer to keep it on the green and fair weather, so. Does it matter if the golfer has a better swing, if the game is in White Sands New Mexico or during a hurricane? Probably but not as much.

oren · **#42**

So rather than practice swinging, you would attempt to make sure to play only in hurricanes?

You won't become a better golfer praying for bad weather. You have to practice the basic skills to get stronger.

SmoothOper · **#43**

oren wrote:

So rather than practice swinging, you would attempt to make sure to play only in hurricanes?

You won't become a better golfer praying for bad weather. You have to practice the basic skills to get stronger.

No, I would just wait until rains so that I could get cheap greens fees because I am unwilling to pay $40 for stupid game like golf.

oren · **#44**

I think what you want is the opposite of the topic title. You want lines that are easy to read. Lines that are especially difficult to read are going to favor the player who enjoys reading.

In fact some pros won't play long one way street joseki because they want to leave the board more complex. It sounds like you want easy to read games that are the opposite of that where the joseki will dominate everything else.

SmoothOper · **#45**

oren wrote:

I think what you want is the opposite of the topic title. You want lines that are easy to read. Lines that are especially difficult to read are going to favor the player who enjoys reading.

In fact some pros won't play long one way street joseki because they want to leave the board more complex. It sounds like you want easy to read games that are the opposite of that where the joseki will dominate everything else.

Actually, ideally I want lines that are easy to read for me and difficult for my opponent. In this thread, however I am interested in discussing the nature of difficult to read lines, preferably simple and difficult to read.

illluck · **#46**

I am now convinced that SmoothOper is a troll.

oren · **#47**

illluck wrote:

I am now convinced that SmoothOper is a troll.

I don't think he's a troll... he just seems to want a magic way to win.

lemmata · **#48**

SmoothOper wrote:

Actually, ideally I want lines that are easy to read for me and difficult for my opponent. In this thread, however I am interested in discussing the nature of difficult to read lines, preferably simple and difficult to read.

Yikes... I give up. Please let everyone know if you are ever able to achieve this goal. Have a nice day.

oren wrote:

I don't think he's a troll... he just seems to want a magic way to win.

It is not a coincidence that I mentioned alchemy in my last post.

Uberdude · **#49**

illluck wrote:

I am now convinced that SmoothOper is a troll.

It took you so long?

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