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| Author: | Andd [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Effecient Study question |
One of the holes I've started to notice in my game is my inability to play severly enough against overplays (most often invasions). I have an easy enough time identifying the moves but I often am too soft on the reply, and then my position collapses. Besides just playing and reviewing the games, is there anyway way to study being more severe? |
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| Author: | Violence [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Effecient Study question |
Overplays don't always have to be punished severely. That said, you could always just try being ridiculous severe whenever a move offends you, in casual experimental games. It's hard to change your style without trying out new things, after all. |
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| Author: | LovroKlc [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Effecient Study question |
Andd wrote: One of the holes I've started to notice in my game is my inability to play severly enough against overplays (most often invasions). I have an easy enough time identifying the moves but I often am too soft on the reply, and then my position collapses. Besides just playing and reviewing the games, is there anyway way to study being more severe? tsumego |
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| Author: | Mark356 [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Effecient Study question |
If you were unable to play severely against the move you thought was an overplay, how do you know it was an overplay? If there's no way to play severely against it, then I don't think it's an overplay at all. If you try to play severely against it and your position collapses, then it sounds like a very well-timed invasion rather than an overplay-- maybe you could reply by first strengthening your own position rather than trying to kill the stone. |
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| Author: | hiyayang [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Effecient Study question |
A diagram would help us understand your question better, but generally speaking, if you can tell the difference between the overplay and the normal move, that would be the first step in devising a plan to profit from it. |
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| Author: | Gresil [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Effecient Study question |
If your position collapses after you respond to an overplay, chances are your response was too hard rather than too soft (in other words... an overplay). |
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| Author: | Loons [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Effecient Study question |
When you make a given extension, you must have a counter-plan to deal with invasion that you are happy with. Otherwise perhaps it was your extension that was incorrect (insofaras your own reading verifies it). Relatedly, if you have a good counter-plan feel free to ignore the (often rigidly adhered to) wall height vs distance proverb. - Otake Hideo, that book that Sodes recommends If you meant corners: <proverb about corners being complicated> |
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| Author: | Sverre [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Effecient Study question |
Andd wrote: One of the holes I've started to notice in my game is my inability to play severly enough against overplays (most often invasions). I have an easy enough time identifying the moves but I often am too soft on the reply, and then my position collapses. Besides just playing and reviewing the games, is there anyway way to study being more severe? Attack and defense from the elementary go series. Studying tesuji and shape will build up the tactical knowledge you need to know when and how to play severely. |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Effecient Study question |
Andd wrote: my inability to play severly enough against overplays There is a nice discussion in this thread:viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1578 |
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