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| Author: | calm2 [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Joseki Question-- large knight kikari + contact |
I am unsure how to respond to W 1, can anyone show some solid variations? |
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| Author: | lemmata [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Joseki Question-- large knight kikari + contact |
As far as I know, this is a peaceful joseki. The simplest way is to just extend back. White will probably fix his position and black will have sente. Black can also counter-hane. White cutting at  instead of  leads to black getting more corner territory. |
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| Author: | judicata [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Joseki Question-- large knight kikari + contact |
The title says "large knight," but the diagram shows a two-space jump. Did you mean to ask about something other than the diagram? |
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| Author: | Bill Spight [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Joseki Question-- large knight kikari + contact |
judicata wrote: The title says "large knight," but the diagram shows a two-space jump. Did you mean to ask about something other than the diagram? This is what he means: elsewhere. is the large knight's approach.  is the contact play.
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| Author: | judicata [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Joseki Question-- large knight kikari + contact |
Bill Spight wrote: This is what he means: Ahh, ok. Would've realized that had I looked more closely rather than glanced and not seen a knight's move. |
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| Author: | calm2 [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Joseki Question-- large knight kikari + contact |
To me both sequences seem--well-- anemic. lemmata wrote: As far as I know, this is a peaceful joseki. The simplest way is to just extend back. White will probably fix his position and black will have sente. 3 here seems to be a vital point for both players. If W tenuki, B 3 if not sente is close. So W 3 is reverse sente ( or close to reverse sente ) and though W is low and ends in gote ( but overall the same amount of moves spent in the corner, my feeling is that B shape is just miserable. lemmata wrote: Black can also counter-hane. White cutting at instead of leads to black getting more corner territory.In this diagram W has the slightest bit of bad aji to the right of 1, but I can't help feel that B has loads more bad aji. I can't help but fell that in both cases B is worse off considering that he spent one more move in that corner. |
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| Author: | jts [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Joseki Question-- large knight kikari + contact |
If you don't like anemic sequences, play tighter approach moves - if you act like W has cooties, you won't have any severe follow-up when he takes sente. Why did you play the ogeima kakari in the first place? Presumably you weren't angling to get corner territory. |
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