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Author: | hailthorn011 [ Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
Hello folks, I'm here to propose a seven game series with anyone close to my level. We can schedule each of the games for a time that meets both of our schedules. The purpose of this series is to learn and grow. And hopefully maybe a stronger player could even offer ideas. Plus, a series is always exciting. But if 7 is too long, maybe 3 would also be possible. So, if anyone is interested, post here and then we can figure out the schedule. ![]() Series At A Glance: Twitchy Go leads with 3-0 Game 1: Monday, January 7th, 2013- 2:13 PM EST Result: Twitchy Go by 0.5 Game 2: Wednesday, January 16th, 2013- 2:13 PM EST Result: Twitchy Go by Resign Game 3: Wednesday, January 23rd, 2013- 1:00 PM EST Result: Twitchy Go by Resign Game 4: Wednesday, February 13th, 2013- 1:00 PM EST Result: TBD |
Author: | Twitchy Go [ Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series |
Hey Hailthorn. I'm always up for games of a more serious caliber then the KGS auto match. I'm a college student with a relativly relaxed semester going on right now. So I could probably fit into a lot of different times well enough. |
Author: | hailthorn011 [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series |
Twitchy Go wrote: Hey Hailthorn. I'm always up for games of a more serious caliber then the KGS auto match. I'm a college student with a relativly relaxed semester going on right now. So I could probably fit into a lot of different times well enough. Awesome. Sounds good then. I'm off from college for the time being, so whatever fits you best will probably work for me. I'd suggest Game 1 take place on Monday. So if that works for you, I'll be free at any time before 8 PM EST. If not, feel free to offer a time that works better for you. Although I want to stress that the results of the games aren't my focus. It's more the learning aspect afterward that is more important. Of course, it's been awhile since I had a high tensity game, the last time being the AGA pro exam, so I'm looking forward to this. ![]() |
Author: | OtakuViking [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series |
You could try with varying handicaps. If someone wins he get's to play the other one at no komi white, then 2h 3h. That way it'll be close and interesting? Just an idea that I might use if I were to play a best of 7 series ^^ |
Author: | hailthorn011 [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series |
OtakuViking wrote: You could try with varying handicaps. If someone wins he get's to play the other one at no komi white, then 2h 3h. That way it'll be close and interesting? Just an idea that I might use if I were to play a best of 7 series ^^ That's an interesting idea, but I've found I learn more from an even game than a handicap game. The person fighting against the handicap usually has to play differently to make up for said handicap. |
Author: | hailthorn011 [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
And a thrilling Game One goes to Twitchy Go! |
Author: | Twitchy Go [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:40 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) | ||
So since me and hailthorn are playing this set partly in competition and partly to learn from. I thought it might be a useful idea to upload a self commented sgf a la malkovich style. I try to be as true to my real reasoning and feelings as possible, although some confirmation bias is possible. Also this is by no means a review, just a window into my head. I've suggested this idea to hailthorn as I thought seeing our differing ideas about board positions could be interesting. Attached and hidden is the commented game. I have a few questions I'm putting under the sgf viewer
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Author: | Unusedname [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
.5 haha i suppose you guys are very evenly matched :] my only complaint is i have to wait a week until the next game. |
Author: | EdLee [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:20 am ] |
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Author: | hailthorn011 [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:44 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) | ||
And Hailthorn falls into the dreaded 0-2 hole! Can he make a dramatic comeback and take the series or will he be swept in four games? Stay tuned to find out!
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Author: | emeraldemon [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
You probably figured this out, but don't invade with 49 if you want to play that 55: just stand up. |
Author: | Dusk Eagle [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:39 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) | ||
Well, I really wanted to review a game of someone who has an avatar of the best pony. I've even customized my SGF client to have a Rainbow Dash theme, to give me extra confidence and swagger when I play online Go ![]()
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Author: | Twitchy Go [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:42 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) | ||
Dusk Eagle wrote: Well, I really wanted to review a game of someone who has an avatar of the best pony. I've even customized my SGF client to have a Rainbow Dash theme, to give me extra confidence and swagger when I play online Go ![]() Dusk eagle I have a few questions if you don't mind. for ease of navigating questions are around: move 16, move 54 and move 86 Please and Thank you.
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Author: | Dusk Eagle [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
No problem. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So, in my proposed variation (Q2 at Q3), white has a lot more eyespace in the corner, and the black group has less eyespace and more weaknesses to exploit with an invasion around J3. Also, because your group in the corner is stronger, it has the automatic effect of making the black R8 stone weaker. ![]() I hope this helped. If you have any other questions just ask ![]() |
Author: | hailthorn011 [ Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
And Hailthorn is one game away from being swept in 4 games by Twitchy Go! Can he make a dramatic comeback? Find out in Game 4. That being said, I feel I played pretty badly in this game and I misread a lot. Still, there's always tomorrow. Good game Twitchy Go. ![]() |
Author: | skydyr [ Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
I must admit, in game 3, I don't like move 6. Black has made the bottom side uninteresting by playing the low 3-5 stone, but it's not big for white to prevent an approach because that's not black's primary direction of development from the shimari. If both sides continue to mirror, black will get the advantage as soon as he plays on the K line, if not earlier. Also, white's bottom left is much less secure than black's bottom right. I would be more inclined to wedge or to approach black's 4-4 stone. Apparently, according to Sensei's, Go Seigen likes the shoulder hit on the 5-3 stone followed by a wedge or inside approach to the 4-4 stone. |
Author: | Twitchy Go [ Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
I have one question about this game, and if people could give me their thoughts I'd appreciate it. ![]() |
Author: | Dusk Eagle [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
skydyr wrote: I must admit, in game 3, I don't like move 6. Black has made the bottom side uninteresting by playing the low 3-5 stone, but it's not big for white to prevent an approach because that's not black's primary direction of development from the shimari. If both sides continue to mirror, black will get the advantage as soon as he plays on the K line, if not earlier. Also, white's bottom left is much less secure than black's bottom right. I would be more inclined to wedge or to approach black's 4-4 stone. Apparently, according to Sensei's, Go Seigen likes the shoulder hit on the 5-3 stone followed by a wedge or inside approach to the 4-4 stone. While I would normally approach black's 4-4 stone as white (wedge is also fine), if white wanted to make a shimari, I feel doing so on the top side would be slightly better. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Black could consider playing at K4 instead of K3 for ![]() I'm not really sure where the best place to play for ![]() I like ![]() ![]() I don't really like ![]() I think ![]() Finally, I agree with Twitchy Go that it wasn't yet resigning time for white. There's a while right side for white to try and create complications on, and if white captures at F10 black's J10 stone starts to look a little stranded. I would keep trying for a little bit longer if I was white. |
Author: | hailthorn011 [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
Finally, the Hailthorn has come back....to L19!!!! As you all know, tomorrow is the decisive Game 4 of Hailthorn's series with Twitchy Go. It's been a lopsided affair thus far with Twitchy Go dominating the series by taking 3 straight games against Hailthorn. After a 0.5 Game 1 this series had the makings of an epic back and forth clash. But the next two games quickly proved that Twitchy Go is playing on another level. When asked about Twitchy Go's play, Hailthorn had this to say: "Why am I talking to myself?" You heard it here first folks. But this is a critical game in the series. Down three games, can he forget the last three games and finally take Game 4? Or will it end with Hailthorn being swept? What will go down in the next game? The game starts at 1:00 PM EST on February 13th. - That aside, I have found this series to be quite fun. And I'm wondering if anyone would like to play a seven game series after this one has concluded? Any rank is fine. |
Author: | Dusk Eagle [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Best Of Seven Series (Twitchy Go vs Hailthorn) |
So how did it go? Who won? |
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