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Post #21 Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:47 pm 
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What is the total universe of eligible events? For example, all tournaments listed on Go News? Or is there some other list?

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Post #22 Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:21 pm 
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ez4u wrote:
What is the total universe of eligible events? For example, all tournaments listed on Go News? Or is there some other list?


I'm using Mr Kin's go news. I'm not sure yet what if anything will be added. Personally I'm more interested in the results from slower-time matches, but I also feel that more games overall will make the fantasy league more interesting. hyperpape pointed out that adding some events could shift the value of certain players, especially since the points are based on a set list. I feel this is all still a kind of trial run, anyway.

I'll reiterate: if there's a particular event you want to see (or don't want to see), let me know!

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Post #23 Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:36 pm 
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Won Sungjin 23
Cho Hanseung 14
Kim Kiyoung 7
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Post #24 Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:05 pm 
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What is the total universe of eligible events? For example, all tournaments listed on Go News? Or is there some other list?


I'm using Mr Kin's go news. I'm not sure yet what if anything will be added. Personally I'm more interested in the results from slower-time matches, but I also feel that more games overall will make the fantasy league more interesting. hyperpape pointed out that adding some events could shift the value of certain players, especially since the points are based on a set list. I feel this is all still a kind of trial run, anyway.

I'll reiterate: if there's a particular event you want to see (or don't want to see), let me know!

So the women's events are included, and say Rui in Korea or Xie in Japan only cost a dollar, right (typing feverishly into his excel sheet)? :rambo:

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Post #25 Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:41 pm 
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Ko Geuntae 2
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Qiu Jun 11
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Post #26 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:01 am 
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Xie He is 16, why you counted him as 11?

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Post #27 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:36 am 
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Xie He is 16, why you counted him as 11?
Oh, thanks for the catch - I had him mixed up with Qiu Jun (was constantly editing and re-editing my picks).

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Post #28 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:28 am 
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This is great. I'm already excited about the semifinals of the Samsung cup (which don't count) and seeing my players advance to the finals (which do). Hear, hear for Won Sungjin (on my team) winning game one against Chen Yaoye (not)!

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Post #29 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:27 am 
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What is the total universe of eligible events? For example, all tournaments listed on Go News? Or is there some other list?


I'm using Mr Kin's go news. I'm not sure yet what if anything will be added. Personally I'm more interested in the results from slower-time matches, but I also feel that more games overall will make the fantasy league more interesting. hyperpape pointed out that adding some events could shift the value of certain players, especially since the points are based on a set list. I feel this is all still a kind of trial run, anyway.

I'll reiterate: if there's a particular event you want to see (or don't want to see), let me know!

So the women's events are included, and say Rui in Korea or Xie in Japan only cost a dollar, right (typing feverishly into his excel sheet)? :rambo:


I thought about trying to include women's events, but they so rarely make it into open events that it would be essentially like running two seperate leagues. If I did add women's events I would probably have to assign point values to the women pros to prevent people like ez4u from gaming the system :lol:

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Post #30 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:50 am 
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misunderstanding detected?

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What is the total universe of eligible events? For example, all tournaments listed on Go News? Or is there some other list?

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I'm using Mr Kin's go news. I'm not sure yet what if anything will be added. Personally I'm more interested in the results from slower-time matches, but I also feel that more games overall will make the fantasy league more interesting. hyperpape pointed out that adding some events could shift the value of certain players, especially since the points are based on a set list. I feel this is all still a kind of trial run, anyway.

I'll reiterate: if there's a particular event you want to see (or don't want to see), let me know!

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So the women's events are included, and say Rui in Korea or Xie in Japan only cost a dollar, right (typing feverishly into his excel sheet)? :rambo:

only chosen tournaments count, see emeraldemon's first post in this thread

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Post #31 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:18 am 
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misunderstanding detected?

ez4u wrote:
What is the total universe of eligible events? For example, all tournaments listed on Go News? Or is there some other list?

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I'm using Mr Kin's go news. I'm not sure yet what if anything will be added. Personally I'm more interested in the results from slower-time matches, but I also feel that more games overall will make the fantasy league more interesting. hyperpape pointed out that adding some events could shift the value of certain players, especially since the points are based on a set list. I feel this is all still a kind of trial run, anyway.

I'll reiterate: if there's a particular event you want to see (or don't want to see), let me know!

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So the women's events are included, and say Rui in Korea or Xie in Japan only cost a dollar, right (typing feverishly into his excel sheet)? :rambo:

only chosen tournaments count, see emeraldemon's first post in this thread


Thank you Laman, I see now where we've gotten confused, I think. Only the events in the first post will count for the league (in the section "upcoming events and points"). I was talking about the possibility of adding more events to that list, but I guess it sounded like I was counting everything on Mr Kin's already.

I've updated the first post to clarify. Communication is fraught with peril.

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Post #32 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:39 am 
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Gu Li 49
Kong Jie 21
Xie He 16
Zhou Ruiyang 10
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Post #33 Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:15 pm 
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Ok, I finally got around to writing a script to check everyone's submissions. Araban, Barrauss, & jordus: you made some arithmetic errors I think. Here are the point expenditures I have for everyone so far:

Araban: You reported Park Junghwan as $45, but he costs $48
c 100
j 100
k 103

Barrauss: overspent on Japan
c 72
j 102
k 98

daal
c 100
j 100
k 100

hailthorn011
c 100
j 99
k 100

jordus: overspent on Japan
c 100
j 105
k 100

Laman
c 100
j 100
k 100

lindentree
c 86
j 72
k 77

lovely
c 100
j 100
k 100

marcus
c 100
j 100
k 100

prokofiev
c 98
j 100
k 100
t 2

Stevenson
c 99
j 99
k 99

topazg
c 100
j 99
k 100


I'd like to start with the Kuksu final game 3, this Tuesday. So anyone who's lingering, please submit a team! Hyperpape & ez4u, I hope I haven't scared you off...

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jordus: overspent on Japan
c 100
j 105
k 100


Edited my original post. Should be 100 now.

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Post #35 Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:17 pm 
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Edited my original post. Should be 100 now.


Got it, thanks :tmbup:

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Post #36 Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:33 pm 
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I've just been slow. The Japanese go scene is the one I know the best, it felt easy to choose people, although I really wish I had an extra point somewhere.

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Post #37 Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:46 am 
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By way of hyping a bit, here's some upcoming events to keep an eye on:

1) Kuksu finals: game 3 is tomorrow, marking the official start of the L19 fantasy go league! Choi Cheolhan and Cho Hanseung are 1-1 at the moment. It looks like we may be able to catch the game live at L19 TV.

2) Myeongin Semifinals: the Myeongin semifinals are best of three, and as of now Baek Hongsuk has one win vs. Lee Changho and Park Yeonghun has one win vs. Lee Taehyun 4d. I enjoy replaying Park Yeonghun's games, I hope he makes it all the way. Second game later this week.

3) At some point over the next few weeks, Iyama Yuta will play Takao Shinji for the chance to challenge Cho U for the title. Cho U has held it for two years in a row, where neither Iyama nor Takao have won the Kisei before.

4) Meijin League table is up: Congrats to Kono Rin, Kim Sujun, and Uchida Shuhei for making it through the prelims into the league. I haven't heard of Uchida Shuhei before, he's only 22, it'll be interesting to see how he performs. First round of the Meijin league starts early December.

Also on the horizon: the second round of the Nongshim Cup, Mingren finals, LG Cup quarterfinals, and Samsung final.

It's not too late to join, just post your picks in this thread!

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Post #38 Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:18 pm 
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Completing my picks:

Jiang Weijie - 28 (you'd think he'd be overpriced, on account of the sophomore slump, but I don't care).
Piao Wenyao - 25
Xie He - 16
Qiu Jun - 11
Zhou Ruiyang - 10
Gu Lingyi - 4
Ding Lie - 4
Wang Tao - 2

Choi Cheolhan - 35
Kim Jiseok - 28
Won Sungjin - 23
Cho Hanseung - 14

Iyama Yuta - 44
Cho U - 32
Sakai Hideyuki - 8
Yuki Satoshi - 7
Yoda Norimoto - 4
Kono Rin - 3
Murakawa Daisuke - 1
Ko Iso - 1

I spent all 100 points for Korea, so I have to drop Na Hyun. I'd love to find one more point for him somewhere, but I can't. Ditto for Uchida Shuhei, who I'm calling the best pick not on my list.

The China & Korea picks were based on extensive work with a spreadsheet going down the list and having names pop out at me, then finding people I could afford based on what's left.

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Post #39 Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:09 am 
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1) Kuksu finals: game 3 is tomorrow, marking the official start of the L19 fantasy go league! Choi Cheolhan and Cho Hanseung are 1-1 at the moment.


Cho Hanseung now leads 2-1. Good news for Laman, Stevenson, and I. Well played by Araban and Hyperpape who backed both horses. Condolences to Marcus, the lone Choi Cheolhan backer not also backing Cho Hanseung.

Quite a lively game. The exchange at 64-65 is interesting.


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Post #40 Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:57 am 
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Thanks for putting that up, prokofiev. Yes, hyperpape, Stevenson, prokofiev, and Laman all have two points. Araban & Barrauss, if you're out there, please fix your pics!

A question for those playing: would you like me to make a new post for each new result, or keep an updated list of scores in the first post, or both? I could even make a semi-automatic spreadsheet in google docs if people prefer.

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