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lemmata · **#21**

SoDesuNe wrote:

I am unable to sense beauty like I do when I replay Shuei or Dosaku, who is also a very strong fighter.

Well, classical players who were much stronger than all other pros are difficult to evaluate. When your opponents are much weaker than you, then your moves will look more balanced, smooth, natural, and beautiful because the opponent's flaws allow you to take advantage of them. Ironically, it is probably thanks to geniuses like Shuei and Dosaku that today's players have learned to resist their opponent's attempts to make balanced/beautiful shapes. Dosaku was the person who pioneered the theoretical idea of forcing opponents into bad inefficient shapes. Being the first one to come up with that idea, he didn't have too many opponents who could do the same to him.

Many modern pros still play a thick patient style (and are quite successful with it). Xie He comes to mind as a typical example.

lovelove · **#22**

SoDesuNe wrote:

Well, I cannot really argue with you about this ^^ It's of course highly subjective and I'm on the other hand far too weak to measure any (if!) decrease in the depth of play of nowadays pros but just for me a lot of games don't feel... harmonic. I am unable to sense beauty like I do when I replay Shuei or Dosaku, who is also a very strong fighter.

But well, it could be just me, so I won't argue ; )

Do you mean like this? for a "harmonic" or "beautiful" game?

SoDesuNe · **#23**

No. I mean something like this:

lovelove · **#24**

SoDesuNe wrote:

No.

Could you point out what sort of move in this game made you feel not so?

I really liked your Dosaku game btw.

SoDesuNe · **#25**

It's nice that you care but please understand that I will refrain from pointing out specific moves I find odd. I don't have a solid reason for feeling the way I do and I wouldn't like to come across as somebody who criticises a professional players game he doesn't even understand.

I don't enforce the feeling I get from a lot of nowadays games, it just happens when browsing through. I for instance am quite fond of Chen Yaoye.
Maybe when I'm stronger my perception will change, like it did with rejecting influence since back in the days my opponent always found a way to destroy any resulting Moyo. Or the whole business with replaying professional games, which I turned down as being too time-consuming and thus ineffective when I was weaker.

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