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| Author: | trout [ Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | New tournament Shinyao(新奥杯) cup |
1st Shinyao open cup Sponsored by Shiyao group, Run by Chinese weiqi association and International go association, Combined preliminary (50 group) done, Main tournament round of 64 - round of 8, Semi final: 3 games match Final: 5 games match Purse, Winner 2,200,000 RMB Runner up 800,000 RMB Loser of round of 4 280,000 RMB ....... All participants of main tournament are paid some money. Date. 11/6 - round of 64 11/8 - round of 32 11/10 - round of 16 Time 2hours 30 minutes and 5 x 1 minute byomi Seeded players, Korea: Kamg Dongyoon, Park Junghwan, Shin Jinseo China: Ke Jie, Zhou Ruiyang, Chen Yaoe, Gu Li, Lian Xiao Japan: Ida Atzshi, Katsuya Motoki, Yuki Satoshi Taiwan: Wang Yuanzun Wild Card: Lee Sedol, Shi Yue |
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| Author: | macelee [ Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(ç³äºå) cup |
This is the same tournament called Xin'ao Cup (ENN Cup). Its preliminary tournament was held in May this year. http://www.go4go.net/go/games/tournament/186 |
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| Author: | daal [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(ç³äºå) cup |
Doesn't 申五倍 transliterate to shen wu bei? Why "Shinyao" or "Xin'ao?" |
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| Author: | Shenoute [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(ç³äºå) cup |
trout wrote: Japan: Ida Atzsgi, Katsuya Motoki, Yuki Satoshi [/b] I had to check his name on Sensei's Library, turns out he was doing the count-down in the NHK cup not so long ago (and was 2-3 dan I guess). I remember seeing him playing in the said tournament a couple of months ago and wondering how he got 7-dan so quick 
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| Author: | xiayun [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(ç³äºå) cup |
The Chinese name for the tournament is actually 新奥杯. |
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| Author: | trout [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(ç³äºå) cup |
xiayun wrote: The Chinese name for the tournament is actually 新奥杯. Thanks for correction. Oro or Tygem site didn't show Chinese character. |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
Round of 64 matches: Group 1 Shi Yue vs. Zhang Dongyue Zhang Wei vs. An Sungjoon Group 2 Chen Yaoye vs. Mi Yuting (!) Jiang Zhujiu vs. Xia Chenkun Group 3 Kang Dongyun vs. Fan Tingyu Kim Jiseok vs. Park Cheongsang Group 4 Satoshi Yuki vs. Han Seungjoo Paek Hongseok vs. Wang Tao Group 5 Shin Jinseo vs. Tao Xinran Hu Yaoyu vs. Huang Yunsong Group 6 Lian Xiao vs. Zhang Xuan Chen Yunong vs. Byun Sangil Group 7 Ida Atsushi vs. Wu Guangya Fujita Akihiko vs. Chen Xian Group 8 Xie Ke vs. Peng Liyao Jiang Weijie vs. Wi Taewoong Group 9 Fan Yi vs. Fan Yunruo Wang Shiyi vs. Na Hyun Group 10 Shu Yixiao vs. Dang Yifei Fang Tianfeng vs. Gu Li Group 11 Wu Zhenyu vs. Tan Xiao Xu Jiayang vs. Motoki Katsuya Group 12 Tang Weixing vs. Heo Yongho Ahn Kukhyun vs. Ke Jie Group 13 Li Zhe vs. Huang Jingyuan Li Kang vs. Wang Yuanjun Group 14 Li Ming vs. Cho Hanseung Qin Yuexin vs. Zhou Ruiyang Group 15 Chen Zijian vs. Kim Kiyoung Cao Youyin vs. Lee Sedol Group 16 Yu Bin vs. Hu Yuefeng Peng Quan vs. Park Junghwan The winners of each match within the same group will automatically match up in the next round, then everyone who advance will re-draw for the round of 16. |
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| Author: | idontgetit [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
I don't like this draw, to be honest. Dong ge is paired with Shi Yue, meaning one of them will be eliminated right away (probably Dong ge)  Mi yuting is paired with Chen yaoye in the first match. Park, Lee and Shin gets easy draws as usual. Two Japanese players are in the same group, which, IMO, is not good because I hope Japan can at least get a few rounds in. Then again, it might be a good thing they're in the same group, because if they win, then a Japanese player is guaranteed to go through. |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
A few more thoughts: 1. Ke Jie and Tang Weixing could meet in the second round. 2. Kang Dongyun and Kim Jiseok got drawn in the same group, and they have to deal with another world champion in Fan Tingyu. 3. Yu Bin may get to play Park again. 4. Group 4, 7, and 13 don't have any particular strong players. |
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| Author: | idontgetit [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
Omg I think Peng Quan laoshi is actually doing really well... can he win?! That would be amazing. EDIT: omg, Peng laoshi actually won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome! apparently Peng laoshi also beat Park in 2013 in the round of 64 of the bailing cup. He's 2-0 against park. So far, Group 1 Shi Yue vs. Zhang Dongyue Zhang Wei vs. An Sungjoon Group 2 Chen Yaoye vs. Mi Yuting (!) Jiang Zhujiu vs. Xia Chenkun Group 3 Kang Dongyun vs. Fan Tingyu Kim Jiseok vs. Park Cheongsang Group 4 Satoshi Yuki vs. Han Seungjoo Paek Hongseok vs. Wang Tao Group 5 Shin Jinseo vs. Tao Xinran Hu Yaoyu vs. Huang Yunsong Group 6 Lian Xiao vs. Zhang Xuan Chen Yunong vs. Byun Sangil Group 7 Ida Atsushi vs. Wu Guangya Fujita Akihiko vs. Chen Xian Group 8 Xie Ke vs. Peng Liyao Jiang Weijie vs. Wi Taewoong Group 9 Fan Yi vs. Fan Yunruo Wang Shiyi vs. Na Hyun Group 10 Shu Yixiao vs. Dang Yifei Fang Tianfeng vs. Gu Li Group 11 Wu Zhenyu vs. Tan Xiao Xu Jiayang vs. Motoki Katsuya Group 12 Tang Weixing vs. Heo Yongho Ahn Kukhyun vs. Ke Jie Group 13 Li Zhe vs. Huang Jingyuan Li Kang vs. Wang Yuanjun Group 14 Li Ming vs. Cho Hanseung Qin Yuexin vs. Zhou Ruiyang Group 15 Chen Zijian vs. Kim Kiyoung Cao Youyin vs. Lee Sedol Group 16 Yu Bin vs. Hu Yuefeng Peng Quan vs. Park Junghwan |
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| Author: | lichigo [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
Woauh Peng quan just won !!!! So bad for Park junghwan ...... The World number 2 already out . |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
Peng Quan remains undefeated against Park Junghwan (2-0). |
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| Author: | macelee [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
Wow, Gu Li lost to Fang Tianfeng. Mr Fang is roughly the same generation as Nie Weiping. He was the Chinese national champion in 1985 if I remember correctly. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
Also Mr Fang was the teacher of Liu Yuanbo 2p who is known to Western players for teaching/organising various China Go trips and playing on KGS as MilanMilan. He didn't visit the 2007 trip I attended but did in 2010 and Andrew Kay has records of some games/lectures involving him: http://andrewkay.name/go/. |
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| Author: | gamesorry [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
I took Mr. Fang's interesting class about Go and Culture in college Never thought he could advance in an international tournament by beating players like Gu Li 
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
I just had a look at the Gu - Fang game, the ending was pretty spectacular with several semeais including one with a temprary seki that was a bunch of virtual liberties as the group on the other side of the seki would need to capture a dead group before being able to break the seki. |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
Round 2: Shi Yue vs. An Sungjoon Chen Yaoye vs. Xia Chenkun Kang Dongyun vs. Kim Jiseok Han Seungjoo vs. Paek Hongseok Shin Jinseo vs. Huang Yunsong Lian Xiao vs. Byun Sangil Ida Atsushi vs. Chen Xian Peng Liyao vs. Jiang Weijie Fan Yunruo vs. Wang Shiyi Shu Yixiao vs. Fang Tianfeng Tan Xiao vs. Xu Jiayang Tang Weixing vs. Ke Jie Li Zhe vs. Li Kang Cho Hanseung vs. Zhou Ruiyang Kim Kiyoung vs. Lee Sedol Hu Yuefeng vs. Peng Quan |
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| Author: | idontgetit [ Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
great results. Although it's a shame huang yusong lost to shin jinseo, it was expected. But lee sedol losing was unexpected  And Peng Quang Laoshi also won, which is great. And ida atsushi also move on to rd of 16, so basically, almost a perfect round, other than huang vs shin. |
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| Author: | kimidori [ Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup |
I would call it a bad round for Korea. I think Kim Jiseok's form is better than Kang Dongyun now, so I would prefer him to advance instead. Now the pressure is on Shin Jiseo. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:33 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: New tournament Shinyao(æ°å¥¥æ¯) cup | ||
idontgetit wrote: great results. Although it's a shame huang yusong lost to shin jinseo kimidori wrote: I would call it a bad round for Korea. I think idontgetit is (at least part) Chinese! Winners in bold: Shi Yue vs. An Sungjoon Chen Yaoye vs. Xia Chenkun Kang Dongyun vs. Kim Jiseok ........... 2 biggies Han Seungjoo vs. Paek Hongseok ........... surprise Shin Jinseo vs. Huang Yunsong Lian Xiao vs. Byun Sangil Ida Atsushi vs. Chen Xian ........... only Japanese Peng Liyao vs. Jiang Weijie ........... bit of a surprise Fan Yunruo vs. Wang Shiyi Shu Yixiao vs. Fang Tianfeng ........... Old guy Chinese #150 beats Chinese #139 Tan Xiao vs. Xu Jiayang Tang Weixing vs. Ke Jie ........... 2 biggies Li Zhe vs. Li Kang Cho Hanseung vs. Zhou Ruiyang Kim Kiyoung vs. Lee Sedol ........... big upset! Hu Yuefeng vs. Peng Quan As for Lee Sedol's game, I don't understand why he made that monster ko at top right when he didn't have enough threats, or at least answer white's threat move 54 at b6 in a submissive but threat-minimising way (though why didn't white cut at b6 as threat?). Once that corner died and he got weak groups on both the left and lower sides it seemed game over despite the top side profit, though full credit to Kim Kiyoung for dealing solidly with the bad aji and flailing cutting stones that Lee Sedol so often manages to find some magic with (e.g. resurrection of "dead" traded stones in last game). Kim Jiseok vs Kang Dongyun was a pretty spectacular sabaki inside a moyo and over in 101 moves. Also started with the close approach to the Kobayashi that's making a comeback.
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