hyperpape wrote:
Now, I'm a yank, and therefore convinced that my country is the center of the universe, but why only 2 for Canada?
Because 2 of our best players is surely enough to crush you all!
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| Author: | yoyoma [ Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/Fujitsu/2011/ The NA qualifier for Fujitsu is being played this weekend on KGS. Fung Yun 9p vs Hugh Zhang is being played early right as I type this post. Edit: Added a poll |
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| Author: | Harleqin [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
On that page, the table headings in the player list are switched (Rating/Account). |
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| Author: | emeraldemon [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
Does anyone know how they choose who to invite? It would make sense (to me) to choose the 16 players with highest rating, but apparently that wasn't done. |
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| Author: | oren [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
emeraldemon wrote: Does anyone know how they choose who to invite? It would make sense (to me) to choose the 16 players with highest rating, but apparently that wasn't done. Highest 14 US players by rating who met the eligibility requirements. 2 decided by Canada, and I'm not sure what they did beforehand. |
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| Author: | gowan [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
Lower ranked players might end up in the tournament because some higher ranked players might not be able to play. |
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
Now, I'm a yank, and therefore convinced that my country is the center of the universe, but why only 2 for Canada? |
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| Author: | oren [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
hyperpape wrote: Now, I'm a yank, and therefore convinced that my country is the center of the universe, but why only 2 for Canada? I didn't quite agree with this either, so I can't explain it other than previous history and told "it will be this way". If you look at the tournament history, it's been this way for quite a while. I'd like to see a seeded field for the qualifier with a bigger preliminary tournament (open to both countries) beforehand to fill out the rest of the slots. |
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| Author: | Horibe [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
I believe the Canadian seeds were based on size of membership originally - I do not know if the numbers were ever relooked at. Certainly there are many strong players from Canada right now, but the comparative populations may still be correct. |
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
Horibe wrote: I believe the Canadian seeds were based on size of membership originally - I do not know if the numbers were ever relooked at. Certainly there are many strong players from Canada right now, but the comparative populations may still be correct. Because of the many strong Canadian players, I was surprised to see that current CGA membership appears to be around 230. So the numbers are roughly proportionate. I would never have guessed. |
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| Author: | palapiku [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
hyperpape wrote: Now, I'm a yank, and therefore convinced that my country is the center of the universe, but why only 2 for Canada? Because 2 of our best players is surely enough to crush you all!
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| Author: | xed_over [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
The apparent frontrunner Feng Yun 9p was defeated last night by 17 year old Curtis Tang 7d. |
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| Author: | oren [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
xed_over wrote: The apparent frontrunner Feng Yun 9p was defeated last night by 17 year old Curtis Tang 7d. I don't know about apparent front runner since Jie Li defeated her last year before winning the tournament. |
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| Author: | xed_over [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
oren wrote: xed_over wrote: The apparent frontrunner Feng Yun 9p was defeated last night by 17 year old Curtis Tang 7d. I don't know about apparent front runner since Jie Li defeated her last year before winning the tournament. And Andy hasn't defeated her also? |
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
So Myungwan is the only player who can ever be declared a front-runner or favorite in any American tournament? |
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| Author: | oren [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
xed_over wrote: And Andy hasn't defeated her also? I don't know. I was lazy and was just looking at last year's results. We need an official AGA statistician for these things. 
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
We have a go database: 3 losses to Mingjiu, 1 to Jujo, 1 to Andy, 1 to Jie Li, one to Jie Liang. 41 wins. While we're at it, she's second in the AGA ratings. |
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| Author: | oren [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
hyperpape wrote: We have a go database: 3 losses to Mingjiu, 1 to Jujo, 1 to Andy, 1 to Jie Li, one to Jie Liang. 41 wins. Unless it's been modified, it doesn't include online events I think. Those would be more representative for this tournament. Edited... interesting I see a Chunlan online qualifier listed in there as an unrated event. So it is possible to do, but many of these tournaments are not in there or being added yet. |
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| Author: | yoyoma [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
Congratulations Curtis! Games begin in earnest tomorrow at noon EST, 9am PST |
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| Author: | pwaldron [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
hyperpape wrote: We have a go database: 3 losses to Mingjiu, 1 to Jujo, 1 to Andy, 1 to Jie Li, one to Jie Liang. 41 wins. While we're at it, she's second in the AGA ratings. The 41 wins are largely against sacrificial lambs in early tournament rounds. Better is to look at her performance against top-tier AGA players. Against Jujo Jiang plus the top-ten AGA rated players: vs. Ming-Jiu Jiang: 0-3 vs. Jujo Jiang: 0-1 vs. Ji Lie: 1-1 vs. Andy Liu: 0-1 vs. Yupei Xiong: 2-0 Total: 3-5 |
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| Author: | hyperpape [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 North American Fujitsu Cup |
It's an interesting way to slice the data, Pwaldron, and there are cases where she plays some unusually low rated opponents (first round of the NAIM), but your approach seems like it could be misleading. Given her rating and overall negative record against the top ten, you can infer that she's mowing down lower ranked players at an unusually high rate. (Btw: sometimes that's "lower ranked" players like Eric Lui (2-0) and Zhaonian Chen (2-0) who'd both be seeded 6th in this tournament). Or maybe I should just ask: what's Myungwan's actual win streak, 8 instead of 21? 
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