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Author: | kirkmc [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Moderating new users |
Don't you all think that setting new users to be moderated for their first post might be a good idea? It would prevent pretty much all spammers, like the one that dumped a bunch of stuff on the forum today. I do it on two other phpBB forums; it's easy to do, and just requires that admins check for posts being held in moderation. |
Author: | tj86430 [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
It's ok, if mods/admins are able to do it quickly enough (say within 24 hrs). OTOH, if mods/admins are active, they will spot spam and remove it pretty quickly anyway. I'm fine with both methods. |
Author: | gaius [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
Why do this? A little bit of fresh troll meat will not harm anyone, and it's not like there is a huge flood of spam on this forum. I see no reason to put obstacles in the way of first posts. |
Author: | cdybeijing [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
kirkmc wrote: Don't you all think that setting new users to be moderated for their first post might be a good idea? It would prevent pretty much all spammers, like the one that dumped a bunch of stuff on the forum today. I do it on two other phpBB forums; it's easy to do, and just requires that admins check for posts being held in moderation. Seems like a good suggestion for me - it's only for the first post, and any mod or admin would be able to approve. |
Author: | kirkmc [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
gaius wrote: Why do this? A little bit of fresh troll meat will not harm anyone, and it's not like there is a huge flood of spam on this forum. I see no reason to put obstacles in the way of first posts. There were about ten spam posts when I looked this morning. Once a forum gets in the radar of spammers, it'll just get worse. |
Author: | DrStraw [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
Seems like it would be a good idea if it really got to be a problem. I haven't seen much spam myself so I am guess it is not a big problem yet. |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
gaius wrote: Why do this? A little bit of fresh troll meat will not harm anyone, and it's not like there is a huge flood of spam on this forum... Actually, there has been a relatively huge attempt at trolling/spamming in the last week. I've been killing spammers/trolls left and right. ( Due to the horrible weather here in LA I've been stuck indoors, so I've been able to check the forum frequently ) FWIW, the trolls seem to be kiddy go players from Russia; the spammers seem to be clothing sellers from China. EDIT: I looked at the admin and mod logs. It appears that Topazg has been deleteing a lot recently too. |
Author: | judicata [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
I think the admins are doing a great job at keeping the spam/trolling at bay right now. This probably cannot be done, but it might be nice to permit normal users (users who've posted over a certain number) to censor posts by users of under, say, 10 posts. But so far, it doesn't seem to be a major problem as it is. |
Author: | amnal [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
judicata wrote: I think the admins are doing a great job at keeping the spam/trolling at bay right now. This probably cannot be done, but it might be nice to permit normal users (users who've posted over a certain number) to censor posts by users of under, say, 10 posts. But so far, it doesn't seem to be a major problem as it is. This seems like a terrible idea. It isn't obvious to me that it's reasonable to assume they are unwanted, and even if it was, I think other methods (like moderation) would be better. |
Author: | judicata [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
amnal wrote: This seems like a terrible idea. It isn't obvious to me that it's reasonable to assume they are unwanted, and even if it was, I think other methods (like moderation) would be better. ok |
Author: | kirkmc [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
I'm bumping this again. Wouldn't it be easier just to have new users set to moderation? In the few times I've checked the forum today, I've seen a half-dozen spams. I know it can be done (auto-moderation), because I do it on a forum I run... |
Author: | amnal [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
My feelings are: - Occasionally I see a bit of spam here - It quickly disappears as the mods delete it, and is very obvious - As a new user, I always find it extremely annoying to have to await moderation. It is a strong push to not sign up at all. => I would rather see this small amount of spam occasionally than have to await moderation, and personally don't think moderation is necessary/a good idea |
Author: | Redundant [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
I wonder if we could implement the xkcd forum system for links. It's not allowed to post a link until a user has made five posts. This would make spam a little more difficult. |
Author: | kirkmc [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
Redundant wrote: I wonder if we could implement the xkcd forum system for links. It's not allowed to post a link until a user has made five posts. This would make spam a little more difficult. phpBB has a feature whereby you can mod a user until a first post is approved. That's generally all you need in a specialized forum like this to know if they're for real. And I highly doubt that many people would be put off by that type of moderation. |
Author: | Bill Spight [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
Redundant wrote: I wonder if we could implement the xkcd forum system for links. It's not allowed to post a link until a user has made five posts. This would make spam a little more difficult. Or perhaps there could be a list of approved sites for links. Any post that links elsewhere would await moderation. |
Author: | oren [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
Redundant wrote: I wonder if we could implement the xkcd forum system for links. It's not allowed to post a link until a user has made five posts. This would make spam a little more difficult. I agree with this idea. If you can't put links, spammers won't appear. Occasionally a real post would have to wait a short time to be approved. |
Author: | amnal [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
Redundant wrote: I wonder if we could implement the xkcd forum system for links. It's not allowed to post a link until a user has made five posts. This would make spam a little more difficult. I like this idea. I've seen it work well in other places too. |
Author: | Joaz Banbeck [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
amnal wrote: My feelings are: - Occasionally I see a bit of spam here - It quickly disappears as the mods delete it, and is very obvious - As a new user, I always find it extremely annoying to have to await moderation. It is a strong push to not sign up at all. => I would rather see this small amount of spam occasionally than have to await moderation, and personally don't think moderation is necessary/a good idea I agree with Amnal here. The harm currently done by the spam is vanishingly small, as we mods/admins are keeping up with it. If it buried the board, then it would be a different matter. But I don't want to lose new members. We have too small a pool to draw from already. |
Author: | DrStraw [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
Joaz Banbeck wrote: I agree with Amnal here. The harm currently done by the spam is vanishingly small, as we mods/admins are keeping up with it. If it buried the board, then it would be a different matter. But I don't want to lose new members. We have too small a pool to draw from already. Completely agree. I look at this site twice a day usually, only reading topics which sound interesting. I have not seen a spam here in ages. |
Author: | deja [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Moderating new users |
We're being inundated with spam once again. I think Redundant's idea is the best one yet. To do nothing preventative as Joaz suggests is a bad idea, a non-idea in fact. |
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