Prokovich game

dfan · **#421**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm91 ACTUAL GAME: Move 91. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O . . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Joaz Banbeck · **#422**

My gut feel - after the fact - was to agree with Mitsun on black's previous move. But black has avoided any line that would tend to strengthen the K11 stone, even if that decreases his chance of making territory in the south/center of the board.

From that emphasis on strength over territory, I think we can conclude that black wants to attack white's center group, maybe like this: ( I'm not sure about 97 )

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm93 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . 5 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . 3 1 . . . . . . a . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O 4 2 O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Actually, black might precede it with something around 'a' first.

White's potential eye space is open to the east. So I suspect some move at one of these points:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm93 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . C . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . C . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . C . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O . . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

tj86430 · **#423**

Joaz Banbeck wrote:

Is everybody doing taxes? :shock:

OT: no, in Finland taxes are done in the spring (April-May). And it takes about half an hour unless there is something very special.

Joaz Banbeck · **#424**

tj86430 wrote:

... it takes about half an hour unless there is something very special.

Same here. Our government considers a profit to be something special.

dfan · **#425**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm92 ACTUAL GAME: Move 92. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O 1 . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

dfan · **#426**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm93 ACTUAL GAME: Move 93. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Dusk Eagle · **#427**

I'd be surprised if white doesn't hane here.

Joaz Banbeck · **#428**

I think that it may be time to call this one due to lack of interest. The game is getting to the point where there is very little of theoretical interest, just the picayune counting of tactical options. The pro may be able to read the 23-move sequence that gets him 5-1/2 points vs the 43-move line that gets him 5-1/3 points. But for most of us, that is either impossible or uninteresting, or both.

Regardless of whether he takes my suggestion or not, I'd like to offer a round of applause for Dfan for doing this.
:clap:

I'll return for the start of the next one - if anybody chooses to do it.

Harleqin · **#429**

What? No, now it gets interesting!

phrax · **#430**

I still find it interesting as well, although as an sdk, I've been more of a lurker. In the spirit of interest, I'm willing to throw myself to the wolves for some entertainment

My first thought was something like this, and is most likely how I'd end up playing. I think is a little better territory-wise for white, but black gets sente. So my guess is its about even.

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gaius · **#431**

Hane does seem to be necessary for white now. But the double hane that phrax suggested could be risky... What about this?

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Now white cannot block, or his cutting stones will be in trouble:

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Unfortunately, I would say that this exchange is good for black also:

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It's not so easy to judge, but I have the feeling black will be all right even after white moves out. So I guess the double hane is an overplay here.

My proposal:

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dfan · **#432**

I will keep going as long as there is interest

I think there are still some interesting moves coming up. Like this one!

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm94 ACTUAL GAME: Move 94. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . 1 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

phrax · **#433**

gaius wrote:

Hane does seem to be necessary for white now. But the double hane that phrax suggested could be risky... What about this?

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I thought about the cut, but didn't think it worked well for black, although admittedly I didn't see your 9, which makes things interesting.

Of course, if that's the case, I guess this would be the follow-up, which does seem kind of slow/small for white. Maybe that's why white didn't go this way.

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topazg · **#434**

gaius wrote:

Unfortunately, I would say that this exchange is good for black also:

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What about this?

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Ok, it's a huge risk because of the diagram below, but if White wants to up those stakes and win big

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EDIT: Ok, this is a bit silly really, I'd never play this way. It just looks like Black has a lot of aji in the middle, and I think White is very close to having a lot of things work in there ... if he doesn't die on the right somewhere

phrax · **#435**

dfan wrote:

I will keep going as long as there is interest

I think there are still some interesting moves coming up. Like this one!

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm94 ACTUAL GAME: Move 94. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . 1 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Nothing like a play in a different area to remind me of how clueless I am

Of course, I am confused by this a bit, doesn't this give black sente? Or is this some funny aji w/ the M2 group that I just can't see?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X 2 . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . 1 O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

dfan · **#436**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm95 ACTUAL GAME: Move 95. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X 1 . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

jts · **#437**

I just wanted to chime in as another lowly kyu who has had a ton of fun following the game, and reading the comments, but doesn't have much to contribute.

Thanks, dfan!

dfan · **#438**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm96 ACTUAL GAME: Move 96. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O 1 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Chew Terr · **#439**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm96 prediction: Move 96. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X 2 O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . 4 O 1 3 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Not sure about 97-98 , but 99 seems obvious, because sente endgame 94 is sente.

Joaz Banbeck · **#440**

Chew Terr wrote:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm96 prediction: Move 96. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X 2 O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . 4 O 1 3 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Not sure about 97-98 , but 99 seems obvious, because sente endgame 94 is sente.

I think that 98 has to be like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm96 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O 3 . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X 2 O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O 1 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...otherwise black plays 99 like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm96 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O 5 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O 4 . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O 6 . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X 2 O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O 1 3 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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