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Author:  Bill Spight [ Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Flashcards
A while back there was a discussion about flashcards for go. Well, I made one. :)

Maybe I will make another one. Maybe other people will make flashcards. :)



Assuming that the enclosing Black stones are alive, what is the status of the top left corner?

Enjoy!
Author:  RBerenguel [ Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flashcards
It's just on the edge of what I can visualise clearly! :D I'd definitely spend a lot of time each time I got this one. Always neat, hate-able problems :)
Author:  daal [ Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flashcards
Nice problem - but what makes it a flashcard or appropriate for a flashcard?

Every time I read it, white is dead.
Author:  RBerenguel [ Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flashcards
daal wrote:
Nice problem - but what makes it a flashcard or appropriate for a flashcard?

Every time I read it, white is dead.


Maybe Bill is joking (wouldn't be unheard-of :D) but this is the kind of problem (that for me) you can't be totally sure, heuristics-wise and can't really plot a "shape point" to win. So, every time this appears it needs to be re-read until the end, and thus makes a perfect problem in my flashcard style: problems you need to read every time you see them, even if you know the "answer".
Author:  EdLee [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:14 am ]
Post subject: 
Thanks, Bill.
My reading is W is dead. If it's B's turn, B can tenuki.
If it's W's turn and W starts to kill at A16, then B kills W first.
W has only 2 outside libs.
As soon as the A16 shared lib is filled:
W is down to 5 libs.
But B has 6.
Author:  Akura [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flashcards
I see big eye vs big eye. Black has 4 inner liberties. White has 2 inner and 2 outer liberties. With the shared liberty this should be Seki, shouldn't it?
Author:  Bill Spight [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flashcards
daal wrote:
Nice problem - but what makes it a flashcard or appropriate for a flashcard?

Every time I read it, white is dead.


You can solve it by counting. :)

And you don't have to count higher than 5.

Right you are. :)

The Big Eye gets the shared liberty.
Author:  Bill Spight [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flashcards
Akura wrote:
I see big eye vs big eye. Black has 4 inner liberties. White has 2 inner and 2 outer liberties. With the shared liberty this should be Seki, shouldn't it?


The bigger eye gets the shared liberty. White is dead.
Author:  Bill Spight [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flashcards
This is a big eye vs. bigger eye semeai. At first blush it looks like each player has 4 outside liberties. Black has four inside the eye and White has two inside the eye plus two on the outside. However, Black's bigger eye gets the shared liberty. Therefore White is dead.

Note that if Black starts by playing inside his own eye instead of filling one of White's liberties, the eyes become the same size, and the result is seki.
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