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Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2
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Author:  Gomoto [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2

Why is the marked move a very bad idea?
White has to play at a instead of the marked stone at all costs.

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$$ | . . X X O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Author:  Gomoto [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2

I thought it is good enough for black to get in move 1 (hane at the head of 3 stones).
But if white plays move 8 in this variation, a critical position arises on the board.

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[go]$$
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$$ | . . . . X X X 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O 1 6 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . 2 3 , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 5 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Author:  Gomoto [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2

The next moves are forced and black has to start this sequence at once. White plays at a,b or c but black has reached a lead early in the game.

Thats why the marked move was a bad idea!


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[go]$$B
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 O O 3 . . O X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 6 O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . b . . 5 1 O a . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . X X O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


possible continuation:

Author:  Gomoto [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2

Additional Info:

Most of the time white should play the double hane instead of a.

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Author:  EdLee [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:42 pm ]
Post subject: 

Hi Gomoto, Thanks.

For the less experienced who may not be able to read as far,
there's a nice heuristic in the early chapters of Bruce Wilcox's Contact Fights:
the :white: :white: :white: string has only 4 liberties ( v. 5 for the adjacent :black: :black: :black: ),
and he suggests it could be a warning for :white:,
and that :white: study the situation carefully
to decide if tenuki is wise for :white: :
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[go]$$
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$$ | . . X X O O O o . . .
$$ | . . O O o o o . . , .
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( Of course, he emphasizes all these heuristics are merely guidelines, and extensive reading and global evaluation are key. )

Author:  Gomoto [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2

The fuseki continues. This is not good for white. White should have played different Josekis.

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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Author:  Gomoto [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2

But be aware that black should not play the marked stone in this fuseki. This is not a good move. The better options for black are the moves a,b or c.

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$$ | . . X X O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Author:  Uberdude [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2

Gomoto wrote:
The fuseki continues. This is not good for white. White should have played different Josekis.

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[go]$$
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$$ | . . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . X X O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


However, check out this KGS 9d beating a KGS 6d as white with this opening (but double black 4-4).


Author:  Gomoto [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2

If white wants to win it plays like this. This position is very good for white.
(black should not follow whites plan like this)

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[go]$$
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Author:  Uberdude [ Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 7: Early 3-3 invasion * 2

Gomoto wrote:
The next moves are forced and black has to start this sequence at once. White plays at a,b or c but black has reached a lead early in the game.
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[go]$$B
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 O O 3 . . O X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 6 O B . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . b . . 5 1 O a . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]



Nice shortage of liberties tesuji with 7 there. Interestingly enough, I saw AQ play Yoda Norimoto a few days ago (unfortunately game now gone from WBaduk) and AQ as white played the hane block exchange above 7 before tenukiing and allowing black the painful hane at the head of the 3 stone wall (Yoda played marked stone as extend to hoshi though instead of keep pushing). At the time I thought it might be silly bot flitting, but if it was foresight to prevent the tesuji of 7 that's impressive! (AQ made a big centre but not big enough I think, until Yoda made some really dumb misread in yose and a bunch of his stones got captured on the 1st line).

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