White can surprise black with this alternative if there is such strong support on the outside.
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Under the radar |
While watching one of BadukDoctor's videos, Katago suggested me to take a closer look at this shape: The shape is a continuation of this joseki: |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
Let us take this postion from a pro game as a reference: Yu Zhengqi, 7d - Shida Tatsuya, 7d, W+1.5 (Komi 6.5) 62nd NHK Cup, Round 1, 2014-03-03 |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
The pros play all the time this continuation: |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
But now take note of the strong white positions on the outside of the shape: |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
White can surprise black with this alternative if there is such strong support on the outside. Attachment: alt.JPG [ 78.5 KiB | Viewed 7813 times ] |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
Example continuation: Attachment: alt2.JPG [ 79.33 KiB | Viewed 7810 times ] |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
Just be careful. The usefullness of this alternative move depends a lot on the surrounding position. |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
In this game by Baduk Doctor the move would have been a good alternative too (7:24 in the video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Rb25T ... e=youtu.be Attachment: alt3.JPG [ 74.89 KiB | Viewed 7795 times ] |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
Gomoto wrote: The pros play all the time this continuation: Not all, there was a Go Seigen game in one of JF's books where they (can't recall if Go or opponent, but probably Go) had the hane resistance, or at least it was talked about in the commentary. But yes, it is an alternative we shouldn't neglect to consider, and pros probably do suffer from too much autopilot. However, there could be a selection bias in that if the hane is a good resistance and black is aware of that he won't cut in the corner but immediately play the 2nd line descent. |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
Good old Go Seigen, always a pleasure to meet him again. |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
Two continuations: Attachment: alt4.JPG [ 75.42 KiB | Viewed 7797 times ] Attachment: alt5.JPG [ 75.36 KiB | Viewed 7796 times ] |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
Just to be clear. My intention is not at all to disrespect the Pros. I just post because I like unusual moves. A usual move would be of less interest to me, as it is already widely known. |
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| Author: | ez4u [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
The earliest example in GoGoD, B+R. |
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| Author: | Gomoto [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Under the radar |
In my 105.000 game database there are two more games with this move and the 4th line expansion (and 3 with the third line expansion). This is one of them: Fan Tingyu 9d - Motoki Katsuya 8d, W+Resign (Komi 6.5) 20th Nongshim Cup, Game 4, 2018-10-19 |
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