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Author: | Bill Spight [ Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Opening problems for AI: Problem 2 |
OC, this does not look like an only move problem. And that is so. However, this whole board occurs 3 times in Waltheri, and 1 time with the White stone on the right side at a. In all four cases the pros played the textbook play. (If it was on the right side, it may have been one point different when the White stone was at a.) Having read those textbooks, I can vouch that it was the textbook play, even though we have only 4 cases. And I am pretty sure that the top bots will dock that play's winrate by a significant percentage. I am not at all sure that the bots will choose the same move, however. |
Author: | Bill Spight [ Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opening problems for AI: Problem 2 |
Author: | lightvector [ Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opening problems for AI: Problem 2 |
KataGo recent stronger unreleased 40 blocks, lots of playouts, analysisWideRootNoise = 0.1 to force evaluation of lots of options. Winrates from black's perspective. |
Author: | Knotwilg [ Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opening problems for AI: Problem 2 |
Author: | Uberdude [ Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opening problems for AI: Problem 2 |
The LZ Opening Gospel can't help with this position, it is too late in the opening so none of its classes of moves are available. Gospel: 1, Humans: 0, N/A: 1 |
Author: | dhu163 [ Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opening problems for AI: Problem 2 |
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