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Author:  philosophyandgo [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Practicing reading ladders
I'm struggling with reading ladders out on the board. The mechanics of play aren't an issue. Rather, my problem is that I have a hard time keeping my eyes on the lines and not accidentally skipping a line. This isn't a huge issue with short ladders, but when I'm trying to read out ladders across the board it's easy for my eyes to get lost in the open spaces of the board.

What tips or strategies can you give to help in reading out ladders when you are working through large open spaces with no nearby stones for reference?
Author:  jts [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Practicing reading ladders
First step is to use diagonal lines to double check your result. The stones that are capturing the ladder stones should extend forward in a diagonal line if the ladder is played out and doesn't hit any other stones. Are there any stones on or adjacent to those diagonal lines? If yes, your reading should find some complication when the ladder hits the stones. If not, your reading should find that the ladder goes straight to the edge of the board. This is a good reality check.

Second step: if you can't read out the result of some particular ladder, you can set it up on a board, and physically shift every single stone that the ladder will hit diagonally along the board, closer to where the ladder begins, until the ladder is only five or six steps long. (This is a method recommended by Kageyama in Lessons in the Fundamentals.) Did you read that? Good! Now shift the collisions-stones further away by one space, five spaces, whatever you can deal with, and read out the new, slightly longer ladder. Continue until you can get to the edge of the board.

Third step: do ladder problems. This might help a bit. If after doing ten or twenty ladder problems you still struggle, you will just have to keep playing until your reading (visualization) skills strengthen.
Author:  moyoaji [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Practicing reading ladders
I second Kageyama's method. This is how I learned to read ladders more quickly. It really works and is very eye opening. Try putting complicated sets of stones on the other end of the ladder and you will be amazed at how ladders can end.
Author:  Phoenix [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Practicing reading ladders
Don't follow diagonal lines. Don't use shortcuts. In a lot of ladder situations, this will only confuse you. In terms of reading ability, it will only weaken you.

Use the method described by jts. Set up a ladder of a relatively manageable size for you. Read it out stone by stone, trying to keep the stones in your mind's eye and on the board. When you can do that, read it again. Do this until you can read it out easily. Then change the placement and shape of the stones that affect the ladder. "Get creative", says Kageyama.

Then switch to longer ladders. Keep shifting the stones at the other end if it gets too easy.

Eventually you will be known as the 'ladder master', being able to read out the longest most complicated ladders in an instant, and inspire awe in the hearts of your opponents. :mrgreen:
Author:  cornucopia [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:44 am ]
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moyoaji wrote:
I second Kageyama's method. This is how I learned to read ladders more quickly. It really works and is very eye opening. Try putting complicated sets of stones on the other end of the ladder and you will be amazed at how ladders can end.


Same here, putting his method to work in my games really helped a lot!
Author:  mitsun [ Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Practicing reading ladders
One useful tip to avoid some reading: san-ren-sei (three star point stones) blocks all ladders. Try setting up some distant ladders and reading them out to prove it.
Author:  MJK [ Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Practicing reading ladders
mitsun wrote:
One useful tip to avoid some reading: san-ren-sei (three star point stones) blocks all ladders. Try setting up some distant ladders and reading them out to prove it.

Tengen, for efficiency.
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