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 Post subject: What do you think of fuseki revolution of shibano?
Post #1 Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:29 am 
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I saw this book on amazon, it looks good. What do you think of this book?
I saw few pictures on another topic.

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Post #2 Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:08 pm 
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I have already done several posts here on this book (or its original magazine series). You can search for them. Or buy the book anyway - it's pretty good, though the real AI cognoscenti may claim it's already a little out of date. It's text heavy, so you need to read Japanese.

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Post #3 Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:30 pm 
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Thank you john, I will search for it.

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:42 pm 
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Well, I don't read Japanese, but I have Google translate and I am working to learn the kana, grammar, and enough kanji to get a sense of Japanese Go books. And I do have a copy of the book "fuseki revolution" which appears to me to be a compilation of Shibano's older Go World articles. And it looks like John confirmed that, so thank you. I first heard about this from John's post here: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=17310

I've only "read" (computer translated) the first chapters on San Ren Sei and the Chinese Opening so far. It's pretty neat. The explanations are simple to follow. I've seen tewari style analysis. I have seen NO mention of win% or any AI technical details (good in my opinion). There are about 8 additional figures/explanations for each opening. And you are often given an opening sequence that you could expect in a real game.

Most of the book seems to be focused on more mundane openings, approaches, and responses. Like the keima shimari, variations of that, the 3-3 opening move, the kosumitsuke(?) against keima kakari, high kakari to 3-4, ogeima kakari, and high variation, one space pincer against 4-4 keima kakari, double kakari against 4-4, the 3-4 attachment against 4-4... I'm just flipping through the book. There are 30 lessons in total.

By the way, Japanese publishers seem to have better quality and quality control for paperbacks. They turn out pretty clean and I prefer the off-white paper. You can pick this book up from Amazon.co.jp for ¥ 1,650. Shipping is about $16 to the US west coast. I waited and ordered 3 magazines and 2 large textbooks as well and shipping was only $29. I wish I had added this relatively new Go Dictionary to my order.「用語・手筋・形」がまとめてわかる囲碁辞典 (囲碁人ブックス). Next time. I have too many Japanese Go books now. I should learn Japanese. Or maybe I should learn Go from the English books I already have. Eh, it's just a hobby.

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Post #5 Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:46 pm 
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Thank you very much for giving so much details.

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Post #6 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:38 pm 
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It is an excellent book.
Kiseido will published it in English as "Fuseki Revolution: How AI HasChanged Go".
Available October 1, 2021


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Post #7 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:57 pm 
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Wouahhh it is a great news. I thought kiseido was kind of dead because I didn't see something new for a long time ^^

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Post #8 Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:23 pm 
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lichigo wrote:
Wouahhh it is a great news. I thought kiseido was kind of dead because I didn't see something new for a long time ^^


Same here. So does this mean I can stop learning Japanese now?

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