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| Author: | PeterHB [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | I miss tchan001's books |
I liked his threads on chinese / japanese books at godiscussions.com . Would he be best off to start it again here, or on a website of his own, or at SL? The SL option would be good from the point of view of being a good place of record, but it doesn't do photos. They have to be hosted elsewhere. I assume LifeIn19x19 keeps the pictures in line here, so this maybe better than SL. Having his own website may suffer from the lack of a wider community interest, making it less motivating. |
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| Author: | Solomon [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
I think he should just put all of those wonderful pictures on a site like flickr; seems more suitable over a forum. |
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| Author: | Phelan [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
Hmm, for people archiving GD, those threads are the most important ones to save, I think... I don't think it would be feasible to do it manually, though. |
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| Author: | kirkmc [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
I chatted with him the other day on KGS and suggested he set up a blog. He seemed a bit disappointed that all the work he put into posting that stuff on GD is more-or-less lost, but he didn't say whether the blog idea interested him. We play often on KGS so next time I'll mention it again. |
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| Author: | xed_over [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
Phelan wrote: I don't think it would be feasible to do it manually, though. not if you're viewing only 10 posts per page |
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| Author: | xed_over [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
kirkmc wrote: He seemed a bit disappointed that all the work he put into posting that stuff on GD is more-or-less lost, its not really lost... not yet anyway |
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| Author: | ross [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
PeterHB wrote: The SL option would be good from the point of view of being a good place of record, but it doesn't do photos. They have to be hosted elsewhere. I assume LifeIn19x19 keeps the pictures in line here, so this maybe better than SL. Having his own website may suffer from the lack of a wider community interest, making it less motivating. I always thought that having those threads on a forum was kind of silly--I didn't realize until now that they're probably unique reference material on Asian books. The photos all appear to be hosted on photobucket anyway, so I vote for moving everything over to Sensei's Library, where this stuff really belongs anyway. If you view the printable view, e.g.: http://www.godiscussions.com/forum/prin ... =40&page=1 then it doesn't take too long to go through them. Somebody could write a quick screen-scraping script that converts to Sensei's Library format--then it's just a little cleanup afterwards. |
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| Author: | Phelan [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
xed_over wrote: Phelan wrote: I don't think it would be feasible to do it manually, though. not if you're viewing only 10 posts per page Thanks for the tip. Switched to 40 posts per page, and saved the 3 book threads.  Ross, for that we'd have to ask tchan001 first, since it would imply putting the info under the SL copyright license. |
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| Author: | fwiffo [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
Thanks for doing the work of archiving threads, Phelan. Ideally we'd have some script to convert them to some desired format (e.g. posts here, Sensei's articles, whatever), but that will take time and it's important to get the information archived before gd collapses completely. We can convert them to a more useful format (if necessary) at some point in the future. BTW: Are you doing the completed Malkovich threads or just the ongoing ones? |
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| Author: | xed_over [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
tchan001 is signed up here, send him a message and ask him |
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| Author: | Phelan [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
fwiffo wrote: Thanks for doing the work of archiving threads, Phelan. Ideally we'd have some script to convert them to some desired format (e.g. posts here, Sensei's articles, whatever), but that will take time and it's important to get the information archived before gd collapses completely. We can convert them to a more useful format (if necessary) at some point in the future. BTW: Are you doing the completed Malkovich threads or just the ongoing ones? For now I've only saved the Malkovich big brother and rengo, and the 3 tchan001 book threads (chinese+index, japanese, korean). I stopped archiving Malkovich threads since Dusk Eagle had apparently already saved the ongoing ones (don't know which). I still need to find the time and go through my "subscribed threads" and archive those. Lots of good info there as well. Hope we can get a database backup from Don later, but for now... |
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| Author: | dfan [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
I also would hate to lose the threads of tchan's library. It was really valuable as a reference when I made a recent order from amazon.co.jp, plus it's just fun to drool over. |
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| Author: | PeterHB [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
I hadn't noticed before, but Ross's comment made me realize that tchan001 used a consistent approach of putting the photos on photobucket, so it might be relatively easy to move the text to SL and link the previous photos. I'll try xed-over's suggestion of leaving tchan001 a message to see what he thinks. |
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| Author: | tchan001 [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
I haven't decided what to do with my book threads yet. The info has been written over many months and it probably deserve a second look if I were to replace/update them elsewhere. I guess I should first at least back up my text and then figure out how to do restructure the info. The photos are all hosted on photobucket at the moment so it shouldn't be a big concern. I don't think it would be a good idea to just copy everything and load it on SL. It is my copyright and if I ever decide to use the info in a website, I probably would not want the info floating around out of my control. |
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| Author: | PeterHB [ Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
Good to hear from you tchan001. Mull it over and update us here when you decide what you want to do. |
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| Author: | tchan001 [ Mon May 03, 2010 4:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
I will be consolidating the books thread, updating and fleshing out the entries on my new blog at http://tchan001.wordpress.com Eventually all the books from my GD threads will be posted on the blog and will be easily searchable and hopefully appropriately tagged. I will not be updating the books thread at GD anymore so any new entries will only be at that blog. I hope to make the blog into a unique reference source of Asian go books for the western audience. There will also be a new section there called Go Sightings in which I will try to post interesting go related items I happen upon. Hope you all enjoy the new blog. |
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| Author: | kirkmc [ Mon May 03, 2010 4:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
Glad to hear it! |
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| Author: | zenith [ Mon May 03, 2010 6:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
Nice blog!! I'm glad tchan001 will be continuing his book collection, I enjoyed looking through the books thread on gd. |
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| Author: | azazil [ Mon May 10, 2010 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
I for one would really like to thank tchan001 for all the work he's put into his threads (and now blog, yea!). It helped me identify a number of Asian tsumego books I've had on my shelf, and get several more online. The GD list really is a unique resource for western go players, and I hope in time it can migrate onto his blog. Have people considered using Google's cached version to reconstruct the lost content? For instance, http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... Ft%3D6384+前田中級詰碁+godiscussions.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us With the judicious use of google and some copy and paste, it might not be so hard to get tchan001's original list. - Az |
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| Author: | xed_over [ Mon May 10, 2010 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I miss tchan001's books |
azazil wrote: , it might not be so hard to get tchan001's original list. his original list is still on GoDiscussions |
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